The LOGOS & Answered Prayers

I have listened to John 13-17 many, many times at night for years. This is one reason why I enjoyed (Vincent’s) essay on John 15, and how Jesus commands we pray and get answers for our prayers and how we are predestined for it, because it is so obvious[1].

But today I was reading John chapter 1 and thinking about the Logos. Jesus is the logic/reason/order; and creation was made through Him. Thus, the marital world follows the laws of logic, because the Laws of Logic, which are part of Jesus’ nature (or more precisely, the motion of His thinking) made the world. This same is with man. The Logic made man, and He is the light (i.e. intellectual light) of man.  The context of John 1 and “light,” is mainly about a  “intellectual light,” and not a moral light. And so, the focus of John’s gospel is an intellectual understanding of the truth and belief in it. This is why John has a clear thesis stated to sum up his gospel: (John 20:31) “these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.” The focus is an intellectual understanding and faith in this revealed truth. This “life in His name,” is directly about the intellectual life, but it also broadly includes all aspects of the abundant life Jesus has been speaking throughout John’s letter, such as the out poring of the Holy Spirit (John 7:38, 16:13-16), and getting whatever we ask for (John 14:12-14, 15:7-8).

At any rate, as I was thinking about this, it occurred to me how some Reformed/Calvinists (or others) like this passage because they see themselves as intellectuals. And so, they love the logos doctrine(even if they are wrong about what this even means—they love their idea of it, and the idea that they are logical and intelligent more for it). Yet, this Logos is still in chapters 14-16, is He not? The LOGIC of God says we are to ask and receive whatever we want, and this is proof of discipleship. Did not the Reason of God say for us to ask and receive so that the Father is glorified and that we have joy? Did not the LOGOS say that we would do greater things than the LOGOS?

John 15:7,8,15.

7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you.
My Father is glorified by this: that you bear much fruit [i.e. praying and getting what you want], and prove to be my disciples.
16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed [i.e. Predestination] you that you should go and bear fruit, and your fruit should remain, in order that whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you.[2]

Let us use some logic from the LOGOS.

M.1. (P) If Jesus has predestined you for salvation, (Q) then Jesus has predestined you to be His disciple.
M.2. (Q) If Jesus has predestined you to be His disciple, (R) then you have been predestined to bear fruit of a disciple.
M.3. (R) If you have been predestined to bear fruit, (S) then you are predestined to ask whatever you want from God and you receive it.
M.4.  ~(S) It is not the case, that you are ask whatever you want from God and receive it.
M.5. Therefore , ~(P) you have not been predestined for salvation.[3]


You know this, but how can one prize themselves as a believer in the Logos, if they refuse to believe what the Logos says? How can one be logical and intellectual if they do not follow what the Logic did and commanded us to do? How is one a disciple of the LOGOS if they do not give proof of it? How is one filled with light, if they never let the light in?



[1] Vincent Cheung. Predestination and Miracles.

Found in, TRACE, 2018 chapter 18.

[2] Emphasis and [] added by Author.

[3] See, Oshea Davis, Jesus Commands proof of Discipleship.  2019.