Romans 8:9-11 (Scripture & Logic)

The New Metaphysical Category of Endless Power of Life


Romans 8:9–11 (LEB)

9 But you are not in the flesh (or “controlled by the sinful mind”) but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, this person ⌊does not belong to him⌋.

10 But if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 And if the Spirit of the one who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, the one who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also make alive your mortal bodies through his Spirit who lives in you.

Romans 8-9-11 (NLT)

9 But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.)

10 And Christ lives within you, so even though your body will die because of sin, the Spirit gives you life because you have been made right with God.

11 The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you.


The stricter literal translation, like the LEB, will better show possible argument questions with “If…THE…SO THAT,” as compared to a looser Translation as the NLT. The advantage of the NLT is that it might be helpful in defining terms with words and noun phrases more understandable to a modern audience.

We have a series of 6 enthymeme affirmative arguments (Affirming the Antecedent) as enthymemes.

The first two arguments in verse 9 are based around one positive argument, but through a use of, the Law of Identify, is restated in a negative argument with the added comprehension of saying “spirit of Christ,” rather than merely saying “the Spirit.”  That is, “If this fruit is not an apple, then it is not an apple. However, if it is an apple, then it is an apple.” This might seem too painfully obvious for the Scripture to teach like this for some; however, most mistakes in thinking are not in long complicated Logic problems. Most mistakes are at the most rudimentary level of informal fallacies and even at the 4 basic laws logic—Contradiction, Identity and Excluded Middle and Necessary Inference. In fact, most of the informal fallacies of ambiguity and irrelevance are braking one of these 4 laws of logic.  Therefore, for teaching purposes it is good to entreat these laws of logic to ensure mistakes in thinking are prevented at the start.

This first Modus Ponens enthymeme in verse 9 starts with the conclusion (A.3.), then it continues (A.2.) with, “if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you.” This “if indeed,” is combining the A.1. antecedent and A.2. together.  That is, “(1) IF it is true that X is Y, then Y is Z. (2) It is INDEED the cause the X is Y. (3) Thus, Y is Z.”


Verse 9.

A.1. (P) If the Spirit of God is in this person, (~Q) then necessarily they are not dominated by a sinful mind.
A.2. (P) Indeed, the Spirit of God lives in this person.
A.3. (~Q) Thus, this person is not ruled by a sinful mind.

Ab.1. (P) If the Spirit of God lives is in this person, (Q) then necessarily they are controlled by the Spirit.
Ab.2. (Q) It is true the Spirit of God lives in this person.
Ab.3. (P) Therefore, they are controlled by the Spirit.


B.1. (~P) If the Spirit of Christ does not live in this person, (~Q) then they necessarily do not belong to Christ.
B.2. (~P) It is true, this person does not have the Spirit of Christ.
B.3. (~Q) Therefore, this person does not belong to Christ.


Verse 10.

Verse 10 is a compound Modus Ponens. We will break it up to keep it simple rather than using Natural Deduction. Argument C presuppose the previous teaching Paul gives (ch. 5-6) regarding how God identifies the Elect with Christ’s death and resurrection.

Romans 6:6, 9-10 (LEB), “knowing this, that our old man was crucified together with him, in order that the body of sin may be done away with, …Knowing that Christ, because he* has been raised from the dead, is going to die no more, death no longer being master over him. For that death he died, he died to sin once and never again.”  This death was once for all, and to which Christ dies no more. The Elect, in addition to the effect of Adam’s imputed death, are now identified with Christ’s death by the Father’s Will. God has taken us out of one cause and effect and has place us into a new metaphysical and ontological category. God considers their old mortal bodies to be buried with Christ, once and for all.  The NLT translation is a poor paraphrase when it read, “so even though your body will die because of sin.” The context of Romans 6:10-13 is not future tense; rather, the context is past tense. The Chosen ones are already identified with being buried with Christ and His death, by the Will of the Father. The elect are to assent [reckon] this is an accurate description of realty regarding them.

Argument D presupposes the teaching in Romans 5:21 (LEB) “as sin reigned in death, so also grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”  That is, because of imputed sin and death from Adam, the result is that sin “rules,” “controls” or “dominates” man. However, because of Jesus Christ’s imputed righteousness to the Elect, grace—by the Spirit living in them—now dominates them in endless power of life. This life is foundationally first an intellectual light. It is about the mind being transformed into the image of Christ’s mind. Paul says the Spirit of God, who alone knows God, is now in us. We are renewed in the knowledge of Christ, who is the image we were created from. Also, endless life is broadly speaking about the believer partaking of all the good things and benefits of the Father of Glory, (Psalm 103, 1 Corinthians 2:6-16)

C.1. (P) If Christ lives in a person, (Q) then the mortal body is dead because of sin.
C.2. (P) Indeed, Christ is in this person.
C.3. (Q) Thus, this person’s mortal body is dead because of sin

D.1. (P) If Christ lives in this person, (Q) then the Spirit controls with endless life.
D.2. (Q) Indeed, the Spirit of Christ lives in this person.
D.3. (P) Therefore, this person is controlled by the Spirit in endless of life.


Verse 11

The term ‘mortal bodies’ means we are dealing with the present and not after the advent of Christ’s second arrival. After the second coming our bodies will be transformed and glorified. The is no need for healing or helping the old body, because it is gone.

Romans 6:5,10–13 (LEB), “…we HAVE become IDENTIFIED with him in the likeness of his DEATH, … 10 For that death he died, he died to sin once and never again, but that life he lives, he lives to God. 11 So also you, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your MORTAL BODIES, so that you obey its desires, 13 and do not present your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who are ALIVE FROM THE DEAD, and your members to God as instruments of righteousness….”

Paul teaches to us assent that God has already identified the Chosen Ones mortal bodies with Christ’s death, and so we are freed from the necessary result of our mortal bodies, which is the control of sin.  That is, God has taken us out of one cause and effect and has place us into a new metaphysical and ontological category.  However, if that is the case, then how can we still assent that we have a mortal body to serve God? The answer is that God also identifies us with Christ’s endless power of life from the grave. Thus, God’s Spirit will give life to your mortal body and empower you to serve Him.

That is, not only does God give strength to the soul, but also your mortal body. The curse of the law included things like cancer, tumors, mental illness, skin disorders, chronic illness and all sort of defective body disorders.  These are curses of the Law. However, Jesus at a definite time and at a definite place because a curse for us. Our healing was produced for us by the precious blood of Jesus Christ-“for cursed is anyone who hangs on a tree.” He redeemed from the curse of the law.

Jesus did not merely take on the cruse of the Mosaic law, but also its blessings. The law states goodies and blessings for those who perfectly obey it. Jesus did obey the law perfectly. Thus, Jesus was also our blessing for us, in our place.  God saves the whole person. Jesus removes the negative, but also gives us the positive. He is not only the God of the Hills but also of the valleys, plains, oceans and the endless skies and beyond the beyond. Jesus’ endless power of life, is a mental life and spiritual life, but it is also a physical life. His power of life penetrates all areas. When John the Baptist asks for proof if Jesus was truly the coming one, Jesus responds with, “healing, healing, healing, healing, resurrection and truth proclaimed.” That is, healing is a physical not invisible reality, such as forgiveness and a cleansed soul. It is a miraculous physical reality. As to resurrection, Jesus meant it, as a second time (John 11) for a present tense physical reality.  Thus, Jesus’ Kingdom now is referred to by Jesus as “miraculous physical, miraculous physical, miraculous physical, miraculous physical, miraculous physical and truth (which is invisible/spiritual). Thus, those who overemphasize the now part of Jesus’ Kingdom as the invisible, spiritual realities are enemies of Jesus, because they are working against His Kingdom and command.

Did not Martha say, “I believe Lazarus would be resurrect at the last day”? Is this not fantastic theology? This is not perfect, “Now but not Yet,” theology? Did the Apostle John mean for our “believing (John 20:31)” in the resurrected Jesus merely be a resurrection for another place and a later time? That is, did John mean for us to understand the power of resurrection in the physical sense for the “later, not now,”?  Yet he recorded in his letter how Jesus rebuked Martha for putting this physical resurrection for a different place and later time! Sure, there is more to it than this direct application Jesus uses it for, but it cannot be less than it. This passage reveals a Jesus who applies His own power of resurrection for here and now. Again, Jesus rebuked her answer! And if you are still wicked and dumb enough to still say it, then God’s rebuke is for you too. How many miss this point. He said the resurrection is here, and it is now, “if you believe.”

God uses sickness as a weapon against his enemies. This occurs most notably in wars in which he stood up for his people and fought for them. For example, some of the plagues against Egypt involved diseases. Later he included sickness in the curse of the law, and he reminded the people of the diseases he released in Egypt (Deuteronomy 28:21-22, 27-28, 35, 58-60). He listed things like fever, tumors, skin disease, mental illness, blindness, afflictions in the limbs, chronic illnesses, and so on. And he added, “The LORD will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed” (v. 61). Thus the curse of the law included every disease. But Paul said, “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree’” (Galatians 3:13). Therefore, Christ has redeemed us from every disease. The Christian has been redeemed from cancer, arthritis, blindness, mental illness, and every disease whether it is listed or not listed in the Bible. This is gospel. This is good news to those who believe.

Of course theologians wish to spiritualize this, so that they could sidestep it altogether. They complain that uneducated believers allegorize the Bible, but the theologians are the worst offenders. These would be some of the same scholars who declare that Christians must not distinguish between the spiritual and the physical, the sacred and the secular, that God is for all of life. Stupid hypocrites. To obscure their unbelief, they would spiritualize redemption. But Paul said that we have been redeemed from the curse of the law, and there is no way to spiritualize the entire curse of the law when God referred to poverty, hunger, warfare, and the same plagues that he sent upon Egypt. God did not spiritually or figuratively destroy Egypt — the plagues were physical. The curse of the law did not refer to spiritual fever, mystical tumors, metaphorical skin disease, virtual joint afflictions — no, they were physical diseases. And Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law — yeah, THAT curse. So Christ redeemed us from physical diseases. Why doesn’t every Christian experience complete healing? Paul added that the blessing of Abraham is received by faith (Galatians 3:14).[1]

Joshua’s mortal body was strengthened by his faith in God. He felt at 80 the way he did at 40.  Samson’s mortal body was strengthened due to His faith in God.  According to the Scripture, this makes Samson’s name unworthy for the world to known it.  How much strength did God give Paul’s broken mortal body? How much healings and empowerments of his mortal body did Paul continually have? Even Jesus received strength for mortal body after He fasted and even a supernatural strength for a mortal body to walk on the water.  Elijah? His mortal body was transported so much it appears, that those around him automatically assumed such a stance. King Obadiah was worried saying, “I don’t know where the Spirit of the Lord may carry you when I leave you,” (1 Kings 18:12). Philip, the New Testament talebearer also had his mortal body transported by the Spirit.

For those with faith. For those who can simply assent to the truths of God’s promises will find a whole new world of possibilities opens to them. They find a God who is a total Savoir, who gives strength both to the mind and body. They are identified with Christ’s life, and so they assent to live as Christ does, which is to the Father by the endless power of life of the Spirit.


E.1. (P) If the Spirit of the Father lives in you, (Q) then He will give life to your mortal bodies.
E.2. (P) It is true that the Spirit of the Father lives in you.
E.3. (Q) Therefore, He will give life to your mortal body.



[1] Vincent Cheung. “Fulcrum.” 2017. Page 78. “God and Sickness.”