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Who Follows The Laws of Logic?

I asked Grok AI, “conclusions that do not logically follow from premises, do they adhere to the laws of contradiction and identity?”

The AI response correctly with:

“Conclusions that do not logically follow from premises, by definition, do not adhere to the principles of:

Law of Identity: If a conclusion changes or misrepresents what is being discussed or the nature of the entities involved in the premises, it fails to respect the law of identity. This law asserts that something is itself and its properties remain consistent. If the conclusion introduces or alters these properties in a way not supported by the premises, it’s not maintaining identity.

Law of Non-Contradiction: If the conclusion contradicts either the premises or itself, it clearly violates the law of non-contradiction, which states that contradictory statements cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time. A conclusion that defies the premises would be contradictory.

For example:

Premise: All dogs have fur.

Non-logical Conclusion: Therefore, some dogs have feathers.

Here, the conclusion does not adhere to:

Identity: It changes or misrepresents what it means to be a dog (with fur) by suggesting they might have feathers.

Non-Contradiction: It contradicts the premise that all dogs have fur by implying some could have feathers.

So, no, conclusions that do not logically follow from premises typically do not adhere to these fundamental laws of logic. “

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This is interesting because Science uses induction, which by definition, the conclusion does not logically follow from the premises. Scientific experimentation, which is affirming the consequent, does not logically follow from the premises. Observation is based on inductive logic.

This means science is a repeated and systematic denying of the laws of contradiction and identity. Scientist will try to get around this by saying we do not change “some” observations in the premise to an “all” in the conclusion, but a to “likely,” or “probable” In my experience they do in fact mean an “all,” because when they publish their journals they restate their past conclusions as Modus Ponens. However, we will ignore this. It still violates the law of contradiction and identity to go from “some” and change it to “likely.” This also is ignoring the other category errors such as “past tense observations” to conclusions about present and future tense., and etc. This is why science is not a body of knowledge.

If the laws of identity and contradiction should be so easily violated, then when Paul says grace, he does not mean grace, but something else like fish. When he says works, he really does not mean works but something else like grace. And so the statement “Jesus is the son of God,” means Jesus is not the son of God. Even though Jesus’ argument (Matthew 22:32) hinged on the identity of a “present tense” premise, it should be fine to conclude in the past tense; therefore God is not the God of the living, because He was the God of Jacob and not that He is the God of Jacob. When the bible says all our sins are forgiven, it is logical to say, they are probably forgiven, right? Induction says it is intelligent to make “past to present,” and “some to probable” interchangeable. Thus, that is how we read the bible, right?

Beyond the direct violation of contradiction and identity, this also leads to skepticism at the epistemology level. And skepticism also denies the law of contradiction.

As a Christian we understand the absolute unmovablity of logic when reading and understanding the bible; and yet, some still think science can produce knowledge, despite it systematically denying the laws of logic.

Empiricism, Induction and Science Is Anti-Logic

If a system-of-thinking’s epistemology ends with a skepticism, “I know that I don’t know,” then that epistemology does not exist. It does not mean knowledge does not exist, but empiricism as an epistemology is false. Knowledge is from another epistemology. The answer for knowledge is of course the bible. It is the only first principle for knowledge.

To conclude that “I know that I do not know,” is an impossibility of reality and of thinking. A contradiction, because it affirms and denies the same thing, affirms nothing. To affirm Y and then deny Y, gives no knowledge. There is no knowledge, no subjects, or predicates if an epistemology ends in skepticism, which denies the law of contradiction. I cannot deny my own existence, nor can I do it in my thoughts, without using my existence. I cannot deny the law of contradiction without using it. A contradiction does not exist. A doctrine of knowledge that leads to skepticism, which denies the law of contradiction does not exist. Any starting point that reduces to skepticism when scrutinized must be rejected, because skepticism, by its own merit, cannot assert its own truth without contradiction.

Empiricism is a logical fallacy. Sensation is not subjects or predicates, nor can one assert that it does without a category fallacy, which when taken to their essential attributes would deny the law of contradiction. To deny the law of contradiction is anti-logic. The same is for logic and mathematics. A visual input, which is a copy of something else, is not the category of logic.

Also, to use sensation to justify knowledge ends in an infinite regress of more sensations. How do you prove a sensation, except with another sensation, and so on. How do you sense you are not sensing? With a sensation? Also, transient, momentary descriptions of sensations as premises always leads to a logical fallacy when the conclusion ends with universals. To say some and all is the same thing denying the law of contradiction. To deny the law of contradiction is anti-logic. Thus, Empiricism and conclusions from them is anti-logic.

To have more information in the conclusion than the premises is a non-sequitur fallacy, because the conclusion does not logically follow if your conclusion has more information than your premises. Thus, all induction is technically a non-sequitur fallacy, because all conclusions of induction has more information than the premises. If your conclusion does not logically follow the premises, then it leads to skepticism; “you know that you do not know.” But this denies the law of contradiction. Thus, induction makes knowledge impossible because it leads to skepticism. Induction is anti-logic because it violates the law of contradiction.

Science relies on Empiricism and Induction, and thus science by extension also denies the law of contradiction by leading to skepticism. Thus, science is anti-logic. In addition to these two fallacies, scientific experimentation commits the fallacy of affirming the consequent. Affirming the consequent takes a sufficient connection in the premise, but then in the conclusion states it as a necessary one. Thus, the conclusion has more information in it than what the premise provides. This additional information makes the conclusion not logically follow from the premises. Thus, experimentation is by definition a non-sequitur fallacy. This means the conclusion leads to skepticism; it leads to, I know that I do not know. This is anti-logic, because it violates the law of contradiction. There is no logical justification to say otherwise, other than mindlessly asserting so.

Science is a triple anti-logic enterprise. There is no knowledge in the conclusions of science; there are no subjects or predicates in science. It is logically impossible to say science has knowledge without denying the laws of logic. What is worst, to attack science or deny logic? But without the law of contradiction you cannot even think. This does not mean science has no role, but it cannot be used for knowledge.

I asked Grok AI to show in formal validity,– a necessary conclusion, without additional information being added into the conclusion or committing a category error from the premises to conclusion,– sensations (empiricism) to laws of logic in the conclusion. It said it was technically impossible. It said if one includes the Socratic method or abstraction (which allows induction and category leaps not included in the premises) then you could, but if one is being strict with categories and the laws of logic, then you cannot logically go from sensation in the premise to a conclusion of something like logic, or math, ethics, universals (etc).

 This just goes to show that the Socratic method is still the intellectual fudge factor morons use to manufacture knowledge when there is none. It is an intellectual ass wipe, to make their crappy conclusion seem legit.  Whether it was the Socratic method or Aristotle or David Hume, or Science, all of them involve the same magical moment where one category, without justification, turns into another category and where conclusions that do not necessarily follow from the premises, do follow from the premise without logical warrant. Of course, by this irrational thinking I can define reality however I want, and this has always been the end game for fools.  

Lastly, when asking the difference between definitions of Rational and Irrational, the AI said Aristotle and Russel, in the realm of logic used rational to be about deduction and necessary inference, and thus, irrational was the opposite. Irrational is about inference that do not necessarily follow from the premises. But when I asked if science was irrational, it denied it. Despite telling me the conclusions from induction and affirming the consequent do not logically follow from the premises, which is what Grok defined as irrational, it wanted to say science was not irrational. After probing it more, I again found out that it considered the Socratic method or the modern use of it called abstraction, rational. This is of course nonsense, because it involves induction and category errors.  As Vincent Cheung says in Professional Morons, they have abandoned trying to be rational and magically make the irrational manufacture knowledge. Even though such a prosses violets the laws of logic, they are under the delusion they have knowledge, or they know they don’t have knowledge and will just pretend they do. And yet, these are the ones telling us they are smart, and Christians are dumb? Lol.  

The Will OF GOD is Irrelevant

The bible teaches that God has absolute and direct control over all things. He is the only real cause for all things, and there is no such thing as secondary causes. God is the metaphysical author of sin and evil. God has predestined all things by His own goals and choices, and decrees all reality in a logical order in relation to His goals (supralapsarianism).  There is no such thing as free-will. Man is responsible because he is not free but under God’s sovereign control and command.  Because God absolutely and directly causes all things, He absolutely and directly causes the predestination of the elect and reprobate. Logic and deduction are so easy. As Romans 9 says, God takes from the neutral lump (before good or evil) and by the same power and choice makes some to be evil reprobates and some to be righteous elect.  God has not given up some of His control to man, because free-will does not exist, because the bible never says He made this choice, and because the nature of God insures that there is no difference in how direct and absolute He causes one thing or another in creation. God’s thoughts, power and choice are one and the same. Because He thinks about it and decides on it, it is reality. Therefore, in the ultimate sense, God Will is the only relevant issue.

I say all of this to state a broad and correct doctrine of God’s sovereignty, so that I am not misunderstood in my following comments.

When we pray for healing, miracles or forgiveness the “will of God,” (referring to His causality, not commands), is irrelevant. As Vincent Cheung points out in “Healing: The Will of Man,” to talk about the “will of God” in this context is already a partial defeat, because the bible talks about man’s will, not God’s will.

The bible’s positive doctrine is that healing is about the will of man, not the will of God. This is how the scripture presents the subject. Jesus never asked the Father if it was God’s will to heal a particular person; rather, He always asked if it was the man or woman’s will to be healed.  Jesus then said to his disciples and followers, “you heal the sick.” The will of God (referring to His decrees/causality) was never brought up; only “man’s will,” was brought up. The will of God was simply irrelevant. Jesus, who is more God-centered than you or your favorite pastor, taught us the “will of God,” was irrelevant, and that “man’s will” was the relevant issue.

Some are more accustomed to think about the atonement and forgiveness and so we will start here. The big idea, is that healing (Isaiah 53, Matth 8, James 5, Gal. 3) is as much the gospel and substitutionary atonement as forgiveness is, if not more so.

So here is the question: is the “will of God,” relevant for salvation or conversion? It is not relevant, if I am the one answering it. I am not asking a broad doctrinal question. I am asking it as Jesus would ask a person, “do you want to be healed”? Do you want to be forgiven? I am asking it the way Moses says, “I have presented to you life and death,” now make a choice. I am asking it the way the bible personally addresses me with its promises and commands, telling me that I must respond to it.

The “will of God” is irrelevant for my salvation, because what God decrees and causes is irrelevant in my response to obey the command of God to repent. Paul in Acts 17 commands us to repent of our sins. It is not a choice or suggestion. When I evaluate how I should behave I only use the commands of God to do this, not God’s secret decrees or causality. For example, in Romans 5 Paul says God caused me to be born a sinner, with a sinful heart, because of what Adam did. If I were to use the “will of God,” as a relevant factor in my decision to repent of my sins or not, then I would recognize it was the will of God to decree and cause me to be born a sinner, thus I will choose to stay a sinner until God decrees and causes me to repent.

I will assume most will see the error of this.  It is obvious that God’s Will is irrelevant in my consideration if I should repent of my sins. The relevant issue is God’s command for me to repent.  If a person uses the “will of God” as a relevant issue to exempt them from having to repent of their sins, we would see this as an excuse to be rebellious and unbelieving.

The same is for healing and other various miracles and supernatural experiences.  Healing is provided by the same atonement that provided forgiveness. Both are already accomplished and both are received on the demand of faith. God is sovereign over our faith, but on the demand of faith God always does what He promises. Faith always receives, and God is sovereign over faith. However, even though God is sovereign over faith (God’s Will), we are never told to consider it as relevant knowledge when we choose to believe a promise or not.  When we are in the context of a “should” or “ought” the category is always about God’s command.

In John 15 Jesus uses God’s predestination as an encouragement to ask whatever we want and get it.  Peter does the same thing in Acts 2 about the baptism of the Spirit for power. And so the Will of God is relevant in the topic of valuing God’s encouragement and explanation. Even though God’s Will is used by scripture to encourage our confidence for miracles and answered prayer, yet, when dealing with the topic of the scripture commanding me to repent and commanding me to receive healing and the gospel (James 5:15, John 14,15, Gal.3, Acts 2) the only relevant category is God’s command, not God’s Will.

Thus, when we pray for healing, God’s Will is irrelevant. The Will of God, is a non-issue. To have the Will of God, pop up into your head when praying for healing, is like having the decree of God that made you a sinner(Rom 5), pop into your head as a relevant issue if you should repent or not, and question if God would forgive if you had faith in Jesus.  It is insane and delusional.

The Will of God is irrelevant when considering if God will save you if you repent in faith; it is a non-issue. The Will of God is irrelevant when considering if God will heal you if you command sickness to leave with faith; it is a non-issue.

“Oh, God, please forgive me. I am powerless. You have done nothing yet, but you could do something, Oh powerful and eternal God. You made me a sinner because of Adam’s sin, and so, I don’t know if You have decreed me to be saved or not, and so, If it is your Will, please forgive my sins.”

This insane prayer is how many pray about healing. They are stupid and sinful. The bible never tells us to pray like this. Such a person should not expect to be forgiven of their sin. And if they pray for healing like this, they should not expect to be healed. To pray, while using the Will of God as a relevant issue, will divorce you from being forgiven and healed; It is a prayer of death.

When Peter said, “What I have, I give, in Jesus Name, walk,” the Will of God never came up, because the Will of God is irrelevant. Jesus commanded His followers to heal the sick. This command is the relevant issue, not the Will of God. The Will of God is a non-issue in the context of my healing, or your healing. When you bring in the Will of God as a relevant issue for healing or forgiveness the end results in God’s command being negated. The category of God’s decree and command are different and so should never be used to void each other out, or mixed together.

“Oh God, by Your Will I was made sick, and so I don’t know if I should be healed or not, but please, heal me if it is Your Will.”

 This is a prayer of death. It is a prayer of insanity and disobedience. This prayer uses God’s decree as an excuse to avoid obeying God’s command to be healed.  To use God’s decree to excuse yourself from obeying any of God’s commands such as receiving forgiveness or receiving healing, is stupid and wicked.

Although, there is nothing wrong for a salvation prayer to “ask God into your heart,” yet there are more precise ways to describe it.  Peter in his Pentecost sermon gives direction for a salvation prayer. He instructs the audience to ““Repent and be baptized, in the name of Jesus Christ.” Notice Peter did not instruct them to “ask” God to forgive them; rather, he tells them to repent in Jesus’ Name to be saved. Why? Because Jesus already died and was resurrected. The forgiveness already happened. We are not asking God to crucify His Son again to forgive us, because it already happened.  We are not asking God to do anything in the present tense to forgive us, because Jesus already accomplished it. Because it has been accomplished all we do is repent.  In this context we do not ask or beg. It is when a person has confidence in Jesus’ finished atonement, they repent of their sins in Jesus’ Name. Salvation in this sense is a confession, and not asking and begging. We confess our sins and that is all it takes. Faith is about God letting you know He has already forgiven you, and by repenting you are agreeing with God.  It is foundationally about agreeing and confessing and not asking.

Other gospel benefits such as a healing, and the authority to cast out demons and cast down mountains is the same. They have been accomplished by Jesus’ finished atonement. We do not ask and beg for them, because they have been accomplished by Jesus and given to us. It is irrational to beg for something that already belongs to you.  It was the stripes on Jesus’ back that healed us. And so, it is irrational to ask God to heal us, as if He needs to break out the whip again and start slashing Jesus in the throne room. God accomplished our healing in Jesus’ atonement. Thus, we don’t beg for it, because it is already ours.  As with salvation, we repent as a confession of confidence in Jesus finished atonement, rather than beg and ask forgiveness. The same with healing. It is the Will of Man to command sickness to leave. We confess and agree with God, rather than beg and ask. This is why Jesus tells us to “heal the sick, and cast out demons.” When we command healing and command demons to leave, we are giving a confident confession in the finished atonement of Jesus, which has given us the healing and authority to do such things.

Science is Anti-Logic

Recently, I have been reminded that people think science is deductive and logical.

Empiricism, Observation and affirming the consequent are logical fallacies.  Because they are the epistemology, order and systematic practice of science, it means science has no knowledge. Science has no body of knowledge.  These logical fallacies are built into the nature of empiricism and science. For example, because the bible is God’s revelation given to us, deduction is therefore pre-baked or built into our worldview. We do not discover or observe truth, God reveals it and we apply (i.e. deduction) this knowledge to us and the world around us. We do not formulate generalizations because God already gives us the truth up front.

If your epistemology starts with the five senses (which is a fallacy), then fallacies of induction are pre-baked or built into your worldview. No amount of crying about this, will make the fallacies go away. You do not have knowledge because it was not revealed and given to you. And so, you must observe and attempt to find it. You must use particulars (‘some’ (in addition to being private, transient descriptions)) and generalize (‘all’ category statement). However, to do this you violate the law of contradiction by saying ‘some’ and ‘all’ are the same thing. The only way to avoid this is if you are omniscient, or can observe all things in all past, present and future with perfect understanding of all you observe. Unless this is the case, then the premises of observation are always a ‘some.’ However, category statements need to be ‘all’ statements if you want knowledge about reality. All conclusions produced by induction do not logically follow from the premises. This means all induction is a non-sequitur fallacy. This means all induction is anti-logic, because it violates the law of contradiction and violates the law of valid inference. The logical void between premise and conclusion is the place where the laws of logic are violated. Induction is anti-logic.

The statement “trees are rocks” is primarily a category mistake because it misclassifies trees, which are living organisms, as rocks, which are inanimate objects. Trees and rocks belong to fundamentally different categories and have distinct properties. However, it can also be seen as a contradiction because trees and rocks have inherent, distinct properties. Trees grow and reproduce, while rocks do not. Therefore, saying that a tree is a rock contradicts the essential properties that define each category. The primary issue is the misclassification of categories, but it can also be seen as a contradiction due to the inherent properties of trees and rocks.

The inherent properties of knowledge are not material. However, sensations and reality are material. To have premises about material things to then conclude with knowledge, is primarily a category mistake, but also a contradiction because of the inherent properties of these categories. Thus, observation and empiricism are anti-logic.

Empiricism is a fallacy. What you see is not the same as the thing you are seeing; they are different categories. Also, the visual or audio sensation is not knowledge, but you understand what you are seeing by invisible propositions of true and false. Sensations are not propositions, and thus you have multiple category fallacies when you go from the thing itself, to sensation and then to knowledge. This results in a repeated systematic denying of the law of contradiction. To say the category of a “the thing itself,” a “sound” and a “proposition” is the same, is a category error and so it also denies the law of contradiction. Category errors in one’s epistemology would lead to skepticism, and this would also deny the law of contradiction. Empiricism is anti-logic.

Scientific experimentation is the fallacy of affirming the consequent. I want to give credit to Vincent Cheung for helping me understand this below, from his essay, A Gang of Pandas.

A. If chemical Y is present, then this solution will explode.
B. The solution exploded.
C. Thus, I verified that chemical Y is present.

This is a fallacy. Maby chemical ‘k’ was present and it was the reason for the explosion. We are on the topic of logic. Logically, controlled tests do not eliminate the infinite number of variables that could be affecting the experiment. Controlled tests have no bearing on removing the fallacy of affirming the consequent. The only way for a scientist to know if his controlled test does eliminate all other variables, is to already have more knowledge than his experiment, but if that is the case then he doesn’t need science anymore, because he already knows all things.

A scientist will then take the conclusion produced by the fallacy of affirming the consequent and then restate it as a Modus Ponens in their scientific journal. Scientist want to be deductive and logical so they restate their fallacy in a deductive form. However, the reformulation is in name only. Logic must match up with reality.  Affirming the consequent is experimentation.

D. If his solution explodes, then chemical Y is present.
E. This solution exploded.
F. Thus, chemical Y was present.

 Thus, to restate such statements as Modus Ponens in scientific publications is nothing less than a delusion. They state their experiments as category statements to be used in deduction.  This gives them the appearance that they have knowledge. However, the first premise of their Modus Ponens was produced by the fallacy of affirming the consequent. Thus, their deduction is unsound.  There never was a body of knowledge to begin with. But they want to have a body of knowledge and so they transform categories and necessary connections not present in their premises and illogically put in their conclusions. They are anti-logic. 

Using “deduction” without knowledge or with false premises means the syllogism is unsound. To use deduction without knowledge is delusional and insane. For example, for me to say, “All box-jellyfish are jellyfish. I am a box-jellyfish. Therefore, I am a jellyfish,” would be deductive but also delusional. It is vain to use deduction or logical inference, unless you have a body knowledge to begin with. Knowledge is something science never had. You cannot use the triple fallacy of empiricism, observation and affirming the consequent and then produce knowledge; it is logically impossible. It is anti-law-of-contradiction to say a conclusion that does not logically follow from the premises produces knowledge.  

All Induction is Anti-Logic.

Deductive logic consistently applies the laws of contradiction, identity and excluded middle. This is why the conclusion of deduction is valid and necessarily follows from the premises.  The point is that valid inference (deduction) is built on the laws of logic, not the other way around.

Inductive logic is anti-logic. We call it inductive “logic” as a way to separate it from deduction, but it is not logic. The term “rational” technically means to be deductive, and the term “irrational” means to be inductive. All inductive conclusions do not follow from its premises, and thus, all induction is a non-sequitur fallacy. To be inductive is to be anti-logic. It is not even pseudo-logic, it is opposed to logic. If you affirm that induction’s conclusion produces knowledge, then at the same time, you deny the law of contradiction.

A quick example. Induction takes premises of “some,” and manufacturers the new information of an “all” in the conclusion. But to say  “all” and “some” are the same thing at the same time, is to deny the law of contradiction. Induction is anti-logic. You cannot deny the law of contradiction without using it, and so we know any system of thinking that uses induction produces no knowledge, let alone a body of knowledge. Thus, even before we get to scientific experimentation, the inductive observations, which science uses already systematically denies the laws of logic over and over. Science uses induction, and so science is also anti-logic. To affirm that science produces knowledge, is at the same time to deny the law of contradiction.

Also scientific experimentation is the fallacy of affirming the consequent.  For example,

H.1. If [Jack] eats [lots of bread], then his [belly gets full]. A, (B is C)
H.2. [Jack’s] [belly got full].  A is C
H.3. Thus, [Jack] ate [lots of bread] A is B

This is wrong. It could be that Jack ate a bowl of apples, and that is why his belly is full.  If you take this basic propositional logic and turn it into a classical syllogism, you will see that it commits the fallacy of an undistributed middle term.  Induction adds information into the conclusion that is not in the premises, this is where the laws of logic get violated.  In other fallacies it is easier to see, such as “some” in premises and then this gets changed to “all” in the conclusion. In affirming the consequent, (or an undistributed middle term in classical logic) the added information is the connection between the major and minor terms.  The premises do not provide a necessary connection between the major and minor terms, but the conclusion adds this new information. To say “there is not a necessary connection” and “there is a necessary connection,” is a contradiction.  

We have skipped the fallacy of empiricism, and only quickly dealt with induction and scientific experimentation.  Thus science is anti-logic. Science is anti-law-of-contradiction.  To say science produces knowledge is to kill logic, but you cannot deny logic without using it. Thus, science does not produce knowledge. To say science produces knowledge is a delusion and superstition.

Personal Attacks Are Stupid

I am still baffled that people, particularly so-called Christians still use ad hominem or personal attacks to discredit their opponent’s doctrine, or what they say. Even as a boy, I noticed the religious leaders doing this to Jesus (who is your father?) and politicians doing it to each other. Maybe some Christians think politicians are good examples for how to argue for the truth, and that is why they imitate them?

Just because my math teacher looks at porn, or is a glutton or steals clothes, does not mean when he teaches me 2 + 2 = 4, that it is false, and that I should not listen to him in class when he teaches math. The stupidity of a personal attack in this example is easy to see, but for some reason I see many Christians employ such arguments constantly. This is particularly the case with critiques against faith teachers. “Beware of such a person, they did “x” or in their past they did “y.”” Seriously, why would I care, in context of their teaching a doctrine? Is this supposed to be an argument against their teaching of faith from Matthew 21:21-22? I find it insulting they think I am stupid enough to think this is a good argument.

Jesus told the man that He healed at Bethesda, “do not sin, or something worse will happen.” What if the man did not stop sinning, and his sickness returned with greater force? Imagine the religious leaders finding him crawling on the ground and then using this as an example to say, “Jesus’ healings are fake,” and “Jesus is cruel for giving false hope to very sick people. Look, here is evidence God’s will is sometimes for us to be sick.” Yet, this is exactly the stupid reasoning they give to discredit the doctrine preached by the faith teachers.

Imagine a person telling their neighbor back in history, “king David committed adultery and murdered a man, and so he is a fu@#$ing hypocrite. He does not know his face from his as@#$ when talking about obeying God, therefore, do not read David’s Psalms. His Psalms are false because he did x and y. When he talks about obeying God’s commands, just ignore these commands, because David does not know or understand what he is talking about.”

Why are people so intellectually defective as to think personal attacks have any logical relevance to doctrine or truth? How can people be this insanely blind?

Jesus Was our Money Substitute

“For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corin.5:21 LEB).

“Though (Jesus) was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that by his poverty he could make you rich.” (2 Corin. 8:9 NLT).

The context of 2 Corinthians 8 and 9 is about money. Paul wants the Corinthians to give money so that Paul can give the money to other Christians. Paul even encourages them by saying, “God will generously provide all you need. Then you will always have everything you need and plenty left over to share with others(9:8).” God will provide you with enough money for yourself and even with extra money left over so that you can give money to others. So simple and a child and understand this.

In this context Paul says, Jesus became poor FOR US, so that by His poverty we become rich. Poverty and wealth both deal with money directly, and the context is about giving money to Paul so that Paul can give the money to others. The only way to say this is not about money is to be delusional and unrighteous.

As is always the case, if you try to kill God’s promises, you end up pointing the shotgun at your own face. When you try to kill God’s promises, you cannot do it, without destroying your own salvation and spitting on the blood of Jesus Christ.

The idea of substitution is that someone takes my place for something. Notice this is the same apostle Paul, in the same Epistle, using the same substitutionary language for both sin and righteousness (chapter 5) and poverty and wealth (chapter 8).

That is, if Jesus being my poverty in exchange to give me His wealth is ineffective, or is not a substitutionary atonement, then Jesus being my sin to give me His righteousness is also in effective and cannot be a substitutionary atonement. Paul’s description of substitutionary atonement is the same for both instances and so neither can be separated from substitutionary atonement without destroying the other.

If you deny Jesus was a money substitution then you logically deny Jesus was a sin substitute. It is futile to attack the promises of wealth, if you must destroy your salvation and trample the blood of Christ in the process. 

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Stupid Cessationism Argument #2

Jackie: “Person “x” says they believe in faith for miracles but their spouse died of cancer, and (etc). Thus, healing on the demand of faith is not true.”

Oshea: My math teacher made a few adding and division mistakes in class, therefore, addition and subtraction is not always correct. LOL!! If you think your argument is any less stupid, then you are delusional. Also for your examples to be taken as a truth claim, you would need to provide proof that empiricism as an epistemology yields truth and induction/observation, despite being irrational leads to valid conclusions. But scripture both rejects empiricism and induction for a method to know truth. Therefore, I also reject empiricism and induction/observation. If you make an argument that uses them I will not proceed further with you until you can prove they yield truth. This burden of proof is on you to make. They are your presuppositions, not mine.

This type of critique is very damming to the opponent because it shows their extreme level of disrespect and arrogance toward God. No one ever thinks to themselves, because my math teacher made an adding mistake therefore, 2 + 2 = 4, is not always correct. I have never meet people who apply this type of irrational logic with sincerity in life (even if some people might act this way it is not common in my experience). However, when it comes to God they will attack His word with it, as if their life depends on it. They would not dare apply this stupidity to themselves, their teachers, or workers, but they will slap God with it. Such attacks are an autobiographical description for the type of person they are and who they view God.

When there is an adding mistake we assume the mistake is with the person and not math itself. However, God’s promises are no less exact, faithful, immutable and unyielding as math is. Thus, when there is a mistake in receiving a healing, we assume it is with the person and not God’s promise to do what He said He would do when we believe.

How do you Identify with Something without Truth?

I saw a documentary on Twitter today and had a few thoughts.

Terms like approximate or identify have no meaning without truth to approximate or identify with. It is like playing a game of horseshoes and there is no stake, and I say that “I won the game, because my horseshoe is closer.” Without the stake, terms like “closer” and “further” have no meaning. If terms do not have definitions, then they are meaningless, and terms like “identity” have no intelligibility. It would result in skepticism, but since skepticism denies the law of contradiction it would have to be false to be true.  

As a Christian I am to understand my Identity in Jesus Christ. If there is no definition for Jesus Christ I cannot rationally comprehend that I do or do not identify with Jesus. If you do not have truth to begin with, then such terms are without understanding. Sure, a person can say they know what a square circle is, but until they demonstrate what that is, I have no justification to accept they comprehend it. Because I say something with my mouth, “all 6 are green and 8 are clouds,” does not mean I comprehend what I say.

Furthermore, the professor and other kept saying things like, that is “your truth,” and this is my or “their truth.” They kept saying this over and over like the good little dogmatic zealots they are. It was not a private issue; rather it was a public statement they applied to everyone; that is, everyone has their own truth, is applied to all.  This is called dogmatic. Because they forced this on others who did not want this label they are by definition zealots. The catholic church portrayed in the Anime Hellsing, would blush in envy at their dogmatic zealotry.

I bring this up because at one point a professor says he was offended because Matt wanted to find the truth about reality. The professor implied and said such a search for objective truth was an attack against someone else’s “their truth.” The professor was dogmatically applying the statement that “each has their own truth” to Matt and to all, but was a hypocrite by implying Matt was morally wrong for looking for a truth that should be applied to all. It is as though the professor was blind that he was zealously applying a statement as a truth dogmatically to all. Flaming hypocrite. The professor violated his own standard.

This always happens with any philosophy based on skepticism, agnosticism and such. If they applied their own doctrine to themselves their own doctrine, to be true would have to be false. For the professor to say we all have our own truth, is a dogmatic truth claim forced on all. To be true it must be false.

To apply the principle with consistency, then “my truth,” well, “is only for me.” If, for sake of argument we take it ethically, (I say this because ethics cannot be comprehended without presupposing the Bible), then to make another person affirm “my truth” would be morally evil, because it would stop being “my truth” to a “public dogmatic truth.” A person cannot accept or affirm another person’s truth, if the principle is to be consistent.  Therefore, such a principle in practical application would be irrelevant and meaningless. The fact that people use “my truth” to make other people acknowledge it means it is not “my truth” but a public dogmatic applied to all. It violates its own meaning. To be true it is false. And because it is false, it should be mocked, dismissed and forgotten.

The focus of this quick post was on the logical and a little bit on first principles of knowledge, and not on the ethical. However, since we are dealing with such things as “definitions,” “ethics,” “logic,” and “truth,” such things do not have any intelligibility without presupposing the Bible, which is the public portion of God’s mind revealed to the world. As Vincent Cheung says in Captive to Reason (pg44), Since the bible is self-authenticating (similar to the Law of Contradiction) and says all other ways of thinking are false, then all non-Christian systems of thinking are false by logical exclusion.

All non-Christians are not only sinful but stupid. Non-Christian philosophies are an abyss of skepticism and anti-logic. Jesus Christ not only takes away one’s sinful record, but also saves the mind from being a moron. He heals sickness and gives success. If you turn to Him for salvation, you will not be disappointed. Who am I? I am a friend of the truth. And for you, I am the best friend you ever had, because I tell you the truth.

A Summary of the History of Logic (philosophy)

[first draft section taken from my Systematic Theology book.]

Logic is what makes math works. Like math, logic is knowing and applying the principles learned. One does not need to know the history of math or logic to understand how to apply the principle of addition or subtraction. The same is for philosophy. Knowing and applying the principles is the important part, knowing the history, not so much. I am always baffled why there is so much time spent on the history of philosophy and so little time on applying the principles of logic and ultimate questions. Seeing how great people are today in applying good logic and thinking skills, it appears this emphasis on history over principles in our school systems paid off.

Most philosophy books and teachers I have read and encountered are able to give me many names, dates and quoted debates, but when I ask them to apply logic and ultimate questions, or that is, when I ask them to add 10 + 12, they look at it and say, “oh shi@#.”

With that being said, a very basic understanding of the important principles of logic and philosophy (good or bad) that are still affluent in society today (or at the presuppositional level, which contradicts the bible), could help some to organize their thoughts on these ideas and terms.

Socrates:  Socratic method. Empiricism.
He partially understood the importance of critical thinking, but decided to make a magical leap from induction and empiricism to formulate “universal premises,” to then deduce from; however, this is to make all applications on reality unsound. The scientific method and publication has similarity to Socrates’ method; however, all empiricist based thinking uses a similar irrational maneuver at some point. They attempt to hide the fact they have no rational grounds for knowledge by taking their category of an irrational starting point and structure and metamorph it into the new category of being “rational.” They need a magical leap from induction to universal or truths to deduce from. We will see this play out in others later.

There are some sections in the deductive section of Peter Kreeft’s book “Socratic Logic,” that is helpful and well said; however, remember it is from the perspective of an empiricist and inductionist and so these types of thoughts get injected in random and odd places. Yet, it is for this reason I am quoting him on the Socratic Method because he is well studied on this and loves it. Kreeft can break down the long hand questioning aspect of Socrates’ and does a good general summery and structure of his method. Many focus too much on the question part, but Kreeft is better at summing up the whole process.

“Section 6. Combining induction and deduction: Socratic method (P) Socrates was the first person who seemed to know exactly what he was doing in using both inductive and deductive reasoning together. His typical method of arguing combined the two as follows:
(1) First, a question arises: e.g. Is it true that political justice is simply whatever is in the interest of the stronger, as Thrasymachus the Sophist maintains in Book I of the Republic?
(2) We begin by making relevant sense observations of examples of justice. A just doctor heals and improves the weaker man, the patient who is sick; a just teacher of horse handling teaches and improves the weaker man, the man who does not know how to handle horses; and so with other cases.
(3) We then make an inductive generalization on the basis of these examples (and this is inductive reasoning): it seems that justice is in the interest of the weaker rather than the stronger.
(4) The fourth step is understanding the necessity of this universal which we have arrived at, by understanding the reason for it: justice is always in the interest of the weaker because of what justice essentially is, by its own nature. In step three we know the fact; in step four we understand the reason for it.
(5) We can then proceed to the application of the universal to the particular by deduction. We apply our general principle to the specific example under discussion, political justice, by deductive reasoning: Since justice is in the interest of the weaker, not the stronger; and since political justice is a form of justice; therefore political justice too must be in the interest of the weaker, not the stronger.

Step 4 is crucial because inductive reasoning alone cannot prove its general conclusion with certainty. So if the general principle that has been arrived at by induction is not known with any more certainty than the inductive argument gives it (in step 3), then when we use it as the premise of a deductive argument (in step 5), that premise will still only be probably true, and the conclusion of the deductive argument will also be only probably true, even though its connection with its premises is certain. It is certain that if all swans are white and this is a swan, this is white; but if it is not certain that all swans are white, then it is not certain that this swan is white. The step in Socratic method between the inductive reasoning and the deductive reasoning is not a step of reasoning but understanding; a first-act-of-the mind insight into the universal that has been discovered by inductive reasoning. And only when this insight understands the necessity of this universal principle can that principle be known with certainty and not only with probability, which is all that induction gives. Only then can that principle yield certainty in the conclusion that follows from it by deductive reasoning.”[1]

This is just a Moron going under the name Philosophy, or thinker or teacher. Socrates knows induction is invalid and stupid, but magically makes this goes away with “understanding,” whatever that even means. How do you understand an irrationally made conclusion to be necessary? By irrational understanding? If so, does irrational understanding lead to a necessary conclusion in induction? If by a rational understanding, then you would understand induction’s conclusion is never necessary. Obviously this understanding cannot be rational. He either means use more induction reasoning or by intuition/common sense. See Vincent Cheung and Professional Morons for more on so-called “common sense.” Common sense is just another smoke screen to say you have no rational way to show that you have knowledge. Whether it is Socrates “understanding or intuition, or common sense,” they are all referring to the basic same thing. There is an unbridgeable gap between the fallacies of empiricism, observation (and scientific experimentation) and knowledge of subjects and predicates. The human starting point invalidates any rational way to get to knowledge. So these terms of “common sense, understanding and intuition,” are preferred over terms like “magic or pink unicorns,” for expressing how a human starting point gets to knowledge.

Remember induction is a non-sequitur conclusion; that is, the conclusion does not necessarily follow from the premises. However Socrates wants us to think/meditate about a conclusion that does not necessarily follow from the premises, until it becomes a necessary truth claim about reality? LOL!!!

Thus, use non-rational means to think about a conclusion produced by induction, which is a non-sequitur, until you somehow intuitively know it is logically necessary? This is very careless of him. Wait? What? Is this all non-Christians have to offer? Yes!

This is not the Socratic Method, it is the Moron’s Method. Sadly, whether it is Aristotle, St. Thomas, modern scientific method, or compromised churches who combine empiricism with Scripture in a dual epistemology, this moronic method has dominated the western world for thousands of years. Endless scholastic cattle have followed this for millennium, even in the church world.

As for our example above the Scientific method is very similar to this, with the exception that #4 is experimentation (Affirming the Consequent) and general universal principle and deduction is stated as a Modus Ponens. The scientific experimentation is used to magically transform triple fallacies of sensation, induction and affirming the consequent into a necessary conclusion to formulate a knowledge/truth. As strange as it sounds, their way to find truth is to use an onslaught of fallacies that somehow make a valid knowledge claim. LOL!

Plato: Rationalism. Honest about his own failure

Plato is an interesting secular philosopher in that he was half-way honest about his inability to find the truth. We have already briefly stated some of this. The focus here is about the broad idea of rationalism.

“Plato had based his system on so-called three original, independent principles: the World of Ideas, the Demiurge (god like figure), and chaotic space. Although the three were equally eternal and independent of each other, the Demiurge fashioned chaotic space into this visible world by using the World of Ideas as the model. Thus, the World of Ideas is not only independent of but also even in a sense superior to the maker of heaven and earth. The Demiurge is morally obligated, and in fact willingly submits to the Ideas of justice, man, equality, and number.”[2]

Thus, Plato’s true first principle of knowledge was the world of ideas, that is; the logic and categories that the physical world, and even gods follow. For this reason, Plato is historically known as the first Rationalist. By Rationalist we are referring to naming someone’s worldview by their true presupposition, or starting point for knowledge. Even though Plato has a pseudo triple epistemology, the most fundamental was logic. This is what rationalism historically and technically means. If your starting point for knowledge starts with logic, you are a rationalist. There are hybrids of course, but we will keep this simple. This is obviously different from Socrates whose starting point was empiricism and observation.

St. Augustine: St Augustine was interesting in that he had a hybrid epistemology of the Scripture and Rationalism. In the context of history this is important because history, in the western world, takes 1 of 3 main roads. The (1) road of Socrates/Aristotle (Empiricism(starting point)/induction/ and publishing these as deductions), (2) the road of Plato (having at least rationalism as part of your starting point), or (3) the road to simply stop thinking and embrace irrationalism.

It is important to note that Augustine’s mistake, from all the mistakes you can make at the presuppositional level is the least problematic, as compared to the other 2. The reason for this is simple Logical laws are only that, they are only about structure of thoughts. Logic is not the content (premises) of thinking. The bible shows the laws of logic are true. Thus Augustine is not wrong about them being reliable or necessarily true. If a rationalist is consistent to their rationalism standard, then there is no subjects or predicates to extract from their rationalism, because again logic is not content, but only structure of thought.

Thus even if one makes a hybrid epistemology with scripture, the laws of logic add no definitions to reality, causality, God, man, salvation or ethics. The bible gives its own doctrine about logic, and so it is sinful and stupid to make logic a hybrid with Scripture as if it comes from an outside biblical doctrine. This is what Plato did by having the gods adhere to such things as logic and numbers that were outside of them. But this mistake does not add any more content itself.

Augustine would even mention that logic is not invented by man but is only discovered by man, and then give scriptural support (in his book Doctrine). However, in the Manifesto, it sounds like he makes logic a dual epistemology with scripture. Gordon Clark says there are 5 or 6 ways to make hybrid epistemologies and he goes into detail which one Augustine makes. See Clark for more about this.

  1. And yet the validity of logical sequences is not a thing devised by men, but is observed and noted by them that they may be able to learn and teach it; for it exists eternally in the reason of things, and has its origin with God. For as the man who narrates the order of events does not himself create that order; and as he who describes the situations of places, or the natures of animals, or roots, or minerals, does not describe arrangements of man; and as he who points out the stars and their movements does not point out anything that he himself or any other man has ordained;—in the same way, he who says, “When the consequent is false, the antecedent must also be false,” says what is most true; but he does not himself make it so, he only points out that it is so. And it is upon this rule that the reasoning I have quoted from the Apostle Paul proceeds. For the antecedent is, “There is no resurrection of the dead,”—the position taken up by those whose error the apostle wished to overthrow. Next, from this antecedent, the assertion, namely that, there is no resurrection of the dead, the necessary consequence is, “Then Christ is not risen.” But this consequence is false, for Christ has risen; therefore the antecedent is also false. But the antecedent is, that there is no resurrection of the dead. We conclude, therefore, that there is a resurrection of the dead. Now all this is briefly expressed thus: If there is no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen; but Christ is risen, therefore there is a resurrection of the dead. This rule, then, that when the consequent is removed, the antecedent must also be removed, is not made by man, but only pointed out by him. And this rule has reference to the validity of the reasoning, not to the truth of the statements.” – St. Augustine Christian Doctrine. ch.32

Augustine historically is very influential to the western world (as far as we can tell.) despite his mistake with rationalism as a dual epistemology, he was correct in using the bible with deduction. As we have discussed before, logic and deduction is only meant to be used if you have truth. Augustine knew the scripture was revealed truth from God and so used logic and deduction with it. You can see how schools in the early western world taught deduction because they understood Christians have the truth and so it is a perfect fit. Even in the left-over Trivium or classical education, which was influenced by a Christian western world, teaches logic early on to children. Even the famous Reformer Martin Luther was a specialist in classical logic because it went hand-to-hand with reading the bible.

It is not important to mention other historical rationalist and hybrid rationalist, because the basic principle about this is so easy to understand that a 7 year can apply in perfection.  Thus, when a rationalist says, “I think therefore I am,” the issue is not so much the logical validity, but where do the subjects and predicates (and premises) come from. Without truth, logical conclusions will always be unsound and lead to skepticism, (which isn’t’ very rational now is it). Where does the “I” and “think” and “am” come from? This is the true epistemology. Where does the logic come from to even think this? Logic itself does not tell us where it comes from, and thus you need a more fundamental starting point to get this information, which is God’s revelation.

Thus, rationalists relating to importance of history and principles for worldview thinking are unimportant and irrelevant.

Irrationalism: Irrationalism has a long and complicated history, with long complicated arguments with many historical philosophers, but the main gist is simple. This long-complicated history and endless arguments is part of the strategy of irrationalism to hide the simplicity of its failure. If one’s foundation is irrational and skepticism, then you cannot truly win a debate, and in the eyes of skepticism if they are consistent to their own foundation, no one can completely win against them. Thus, the endless debates and hours of wasted time.

There are different aspects of irrationalism. Some take a formal pseudo-epistemology declaration that, “no belief can truly be justified,” whether this is aimed at Plato or later to Christians. But again, then their own statement is not justified. This is to be dismissed and mocked. Their only strategy is to keep screaming and debating to keep their relevance.

Some have more of a “fall into skepticism” position. They don’t believe the bible and then some don’t even believe their current god of science is able to produce truth. And so, they begin to think there is no way to find truth. This is usually as far as they get in their thinking.

But as shown before you cannot deny the law of contradiction without using it, but if you are using it, then you just used the thing you denied. Also, there is the metaphysical or ontological aspect of this. You cannot think or draw a square circle. You cannot deny your own existence without using it. You cannot, in reality, think of an infinite regress of the same proposition denying and then affirming itself, because it would take an infinite amount of time. The burden of proof lies with the irrationalist to show they can do the above and so demonstrate their position. Contradictions do not exist. The skeptic must prove they do.

The skeptic schools in Greece who were debating Plato and Aristotle, still had a remnant in Augustine’s time. But when Christianity took over Europe, the skeptics slowly died out to the onslaught of logic produced by biblical doctrine. The reason why it was such a thorough victory was that Christianity had the unstoppable combo of deduction and truth.

The sad reality is that the irrationalist must bow down and prostrate themselves to the law of contradiction to say there is no truth, or no belief can be justified, or we know that we don’t know. It is like bowing down and prostrating before the ancient King of Persia, in his throne room, and saying “I don’t think there is a king of Persia before me.”

The same thing happens today with such things as denying male and female, or mixing up these categories to a point that you cannot define them, and after they are undefinable you use these undefinable definitions to morally condemn others with definitions you cannot define? The issue here is that what little understanding can be understood from such irrational positions is made possible by these people prostrating themselves to the law of contradiction and identity, otherwise their position means the Bible is true and they are false. The hypocrisy is that they use the law of contradiction and identity to intellectually make their statements, while demanding you deny the law of contradiction and identity to categories they do not like, such as male and female in this particular case. Such arguments are to be dismissed and mocked.

Unfortunately as Christianity has eroded from the Western world over the last few hundred years, the Christian emphasis on logic, reason and deduction has likewise faded from society and worldview thinking. The current result is that irrationalism has overtaken the system-of-thinking for much of the Western World. We will continue this explanation when we are finished with Aristotle.

Aristotle: For non-christians, on the narrow topic of logic, Plato was brilliant, and Aristotle was a perfect student. Plato, like with discovering how to use math, discovered how to use deductive logic without being taught, and so on this narrow point he was a genius. However, Plato had a long-winded way to teach these concepts. Aristotle, took what Plato taught and systematized, made it concise and expanded on it. We are merely talking about the logical aspects of philosophy not the “gods” or other things they taught.

Thus, Aristotle understood the basics of logic well. He out debated the skeptics. He put together a basic understanding on category and propositional syllogisms. Yet, despite all this, because he did not have truth, he still ended up putting empiricism and induction back into his system-of-thinking.

Because of this reliance on empiricism, induction and science (his understanding of science is much simpler than it is today) led him to define terms on the starting point of knowledge and “sound” arguments as pre-built with empiricism and science. Thus, to Aristotle “epistemology” (starting point for knowledge) was a pseudo-science pseudo-intuitive experience knowing. Frankly it is hard to define it because Aristotle was not clear on this himself. His definition of epistemology included some degree of experience, intuitive knowing from observations and science put together. The whole thing is irrational. In fact if you look at his definition of science, (the knowledge of “necessary causes”) it is circular.

“1. Whatever is scientifically known must be demonstrated.
2. The premises of a demonstration must be scientifically known.”[3]

Additionally his definition of “demonstration” refers to a “sound argument,” which refers to both logical validity and truth premises. However, he defined “true premises” as those only coming from science knowledge. Thus, he never considered a worldview that did not include empiricism, induction and science as the only producer of knowledge. He obviously saw his worldview as true and so defined such terms pre-baked with his view of truth.

Today demonstration or a sound argument refers to the combination of (1)“true premises” (and rather assuming it only comes from science it is understood that ones worldview will determine where truth comes from) and (2) logical validity.

The first premise (major premise, or major truth claim) for Aristotle’s syllogism, is from this circular science knowledge. He tries avoiding the circular reasoning by saying there is some pseudo-intuitive experience knowledge. It has some similarities to Socrates “understanding.” Both struggle to take what they know is irrational from empiricism and induction and science and make the irrational produce necessary truths. Thus, they end up with unclear and undefined miracles that transform the irrational into necessary truths, causes and universals. The second premise of his syllogism (minor term) is also from empiricism and experience. He rejected Plato’s innate knowledge and categories and so he says we are born with blank minds. Thus you must use empiricism, induction and experience to know yourself.  Yet, how does a blank mind learn the laws of logic, or think? If you don’t’ think with the law of contradiction and identity, how do you think anything? How can you discover the law of contradiction if you do not already have it?

Thus, we use empiricism and observation/induction and combine this with pseudo-intuitive experience to find “knowledge of necessary causes.” We then call this knowledge and use it to deduce from.

Aristotle agreed with Plato in that the “forms” existed but disagreed with how. They both were trying to explain how reality conformed to certain universals and laws.

Thus, despite the complexity of Aristotle’s explanations he never escapes the Socratic Method. It is more detailed and more steps but the same overall method.  That is, despite his agreements with aspects of Plato and long debates with him, his overall principles or method to find knowledge ended up more like the Socratic Method.

At the end of the day Aristotle was a hard-core empiricist for epistemology, with a hybrid pseudo rationalism and intuition. He knew induction was not valid but used it heavily with trying to formulate a starting point for knowledge.  This might be the greatest non-Christian philosophical blunder for the entire world.

This Plato and Aristotle divide are two streams in the Western world, in regards to principles of thinking, that divided many. As Christians the whole things should have been burned and forgotten, but unfortunately stupidity was allowed to live on. The divide “ultimately,” although there is more too it, is about ones’ starting point for knowledge. The classic philosophers are taught in history classes as being more focused on metaphysics, but this is misleading. It is true to some degree, in regard to some of the focus of their books, but as you can see from the Socratic Method, (the broad principles of ultimate questions) they were still focused on how to get knowledge. Also, as Christians we know they are morons, and so we are not concerned what they thought was more important or focused on; rather, we are more concerned with how their overall ultimate questions and principles do or do not borrow from the Christian worldview.

Those who aligned more with Plato tended to be classified more as “rationalist.” However, since there is no knowledge in the laws of logic, a rationalist cannot even use knowledge to say they are a rationalist; they cannot use subjects and predicates to state they are rationalist because those involve content. That is, no one can be a pure rationalist; it usually is a hybrid starting point of logic and another axiom. Because the bible heavily uses logic, you will find famous Christian figures such as St. Augustine making this hybrid of rationalism and the Bible. And as said before, this mistake is bad, but because logic gives no knowledge, it is not a fatal mistake.

Also the bible does talk of innate knowledge, but contradicts Plato’s weak attempt as the origin of it.

Those who aligned with Aristotle tend to make a pure empiricism starting point, or they make a hybrid starting point of empiricism and another presupposition. The famous Catholic philosopher St. Thomas is one such person. This mistake, as said before, is not only bad, but fatal because sensation and observation produces a large knowledge/content. This content has a high chance to contradict your other epistemology’s content.[4] (For example, the Bible says I am healed by Jesus’ atonement, but I still see my sickness. Which one will you pick, if both are an equal starting point for knowledge?)

St. Thomas after whoring himself with Aristotle, officially accepted empiricism as a dual epistemology with Scripture and then made this a formal doctrine in the schools and churches. Those who followed this are scholastic cattle, soldiers for Satan.

The Catholic church therefore has a Triple epistemology, the Pope (men), empiricism and bible.

The reformation fought to fix this. Their attempt was only partially successful. There was some good intentions and some good results from this reformation. Some of their isolated statements on scripture and such are ok, but the result was compromised. Today the reformed refer to their heroes and creeds (men) (despite the WCF saying all creeds have erred) as a hybrid or even superior to the Scripture as a starting point. In this they have become the Catholics, which they so much tried to pull away from. They were better, at least in the beginning, to remove empiricism as an epistemology, but even here it was not total. If you read Martin Luther, some of his arguments against the strange Catholic practices uses pseudo-empiricist arguments.  You see this full blown today when reformed members make purely empiricist arguments against spiritual gifts, faith and healing. They will say, “why don’t we see them?” After debating and showing this is an appeal to catholic empiricism not scripture, they appeal to the creeds. This has happened many times in my own experiences. These in essence do not have a triple epistemology, but only a dual one of empiricism and men.

This dual epistemology eventually was catastrophic and fatal. For a few centuries, the Western world endured this strange Bible and Empiricism hybrid, but after time it slowly began to choose empiricism more and the Bible less. This continued until it completely abandoned the bible for empiricism as their presupposition for thinking.

Locke and Descartes had empiricism as an epistemology but made attempts to make hybrids with aspects of rationalism. “I think therefore I am.” The details are not important, other than such attempts were failures and always will be. Rationalism gives no content for thinking. Empiricism has no existence as a starting point for knowledge. Thus, the details are long winded fables with little benefit to squeeze out.

David Hume. Hume is important because he tried to give a true and honest argument for a purely empiricism epistemology. He was against the Christian worldview. In a rear moment for non-Christians, Hume went to the presuppositional level to provide an argument for his atheistic worldview. However, in this attempt he found that a starting point of empiricism does not provide a rational basis for knowledge. In another rear moment for a non-Christian he admitted using the senses for knowledge led to skepticism. Some sensations are not reliable. To use the senses and observation is inductive, and inductive is anti-logic and invalid. This leads to skepticism. By senses and observations and induction we cannot validly establish cause and effect.

Hume then tried to fix this by saying through experience and habit we come to magically (and non-rationally) know things as they are. Again, this oddly sound like Socrates “understanding” part of his Method.

If I see a mountain, then the picture in my mind is a copy, and it is mental, and it is propositional. These are 3 different categories compared to the actual mountain. It is like saying apples are round and the sun is round therefore I can eat the sun. It is a category error. But let us do it 3 times. Apples are round and the sun is round thus I can eat the sun. The sun is yellow and the numbers on my house are yellow, thus, 7 is yellow. Yellow is my favorite color, and predicates is my favorite, therefore predicates is a color. Therefore, Apples mean predicates are my favorite color.

There are more than 3 category errors when going from sensation to premise in the mind, but from the above, in only using 3, it is obvious the nonsense is incomprehensible. Yet, this is the logical and intellectual foundation of empiricism. Yet, somehow the critics say the bible is a myth, because they rely on empiricism to conclude this. Their foundation is incomprehensible and anti-logic, and yet they pride themselves as intelligent. They are morons.

Hume was honest about the skepticism, and not so much about the true nonsense of skepticism. Skepticism denies the law of contradiction. Yet, a contradiction has no existence. Try denying your own existence without using it. A contradiction is an infinite regress of affirming and denying x and not-x. To prove a contradiction exists one would need to show they can affirm x and not-x in an unreachable regress; they would need to show they can deny the LoC without using it. Contradictions have no reality. Thus empiricism has no existence as a starting point for knowledge. It is nothing.

Modern Day: Professional Morons.

To sum up the present day, it is important to know the direction of the Christian worldview took, since it dominated the West.  After Hume’s demonstration of the skepticism of the senses, some in the church who were blinded by the dual empiricism and bible epistemology, woke of to the problem and tried to fix it. Sadly, the attempts were a non-biblical attempts and so these attempts proved to be fatal.

The first was Kant. Kant tried, as others before him— (you will see men without the bible making the same mistakes over and over. This is why the history of philosophy is so boring and annoying to read.)– to make a hybrid of empiricism and rationalism. Unlike others before him, Kant is trying to hybrid empiricism, when it is publicly known to lead to skepticism, because of Hume. Aristotle and Socrates knew this, but most ignored it or made it magically go way with “understanding,” or “habit” and “intuition.” However, in Kant’s timeline, because of Hume, the public noticed the issue and wanted to fix it.

The big idea with Kant is he did not answer how logic gives subjects and predicates. He admits empiricism does lead to skepticism and thus denies the law of contradiction. However, he does not justify how this hybrid makes this two-fold problem disappear.  For example, “there is no such thing as the law of contradiction”, is one of my dual epistemologies, and the other is “scripture.” To say this does not make the scripture prove I can deny the LoC; rather, if I say the scripture supports this hybrid, I am dis-proving and dis-crediting the scripture by saying it supports an irrational dual epistemology.

Thus, Kant’s hybrid, although more complex, did not reduce the issues of Rationalism or Empiricism as epistemologies; rather, all he did was compound the problems by combining them. It is like category logic and the rule that says you cannot have two negatives and then conclude with a positive. Having two epistemologies that produce “0” knowledge does not make it so that together they now produce knowledge. If you add 0 + 0, then the conclusion is still 0.

Irrationalism.

After Kant came Kierkegaard. Kierkegaard, was honest about Kant’s hybrid and realized if empiricism is part of the hybrid, then you are still left with (at least some) anti-logic affirmations. Induction is irrational. Sensation and observation are irrational. To conclude from them we have knowledge is to contradict that these came by irrational ways.

Europe was leaving Christianity. David Hume showed empiricism leads to skepticism. Kant’s hybrid did not get rid of the inherent irrationalism out of his Christian philosophy, because he still used empiricism. Thus both the secular Western world and Christian world were both embracing irrationalism, because both used empiricism.

Kierkegaard simply took the next step forward in this environment. He made Christianity affirm outright irrationalism. Faith is contrary to reason. Because he was popular, his embrace of irrationalism became formal Christian doctrine.

The bible teaches the opposite. “Faith is simply a religious word for logic or reason.” (see Vincent Cheung, Logic and Resurrection.) God is logic and God appeals to logic and uses logic in the Scripture.

I remember reading an article from “World Magazine” where the authors were happy that over half of America was now skeptical of Christianity, but were surprised over half were also skeptical of evolution. However, in a world that has embraced empiricism, even many churches, it is no surprised skepticism is running rampant.

I remember reading Gordon Clark quoting a 1945 General Harvard Committee report, where they were applauding themselves for removing Christianity from higher education, but lamenting the fact there was not another philosophy that can umbrella all the subjects in their school together like Christianity. Even if we assume empiricism can give some knowledge, it cannot give knowledge with such obvious things as math, ethics or logic. Thus, in a anti-Christian education system, there is now skepticism and irrationalism, because there no epistemology to umbrella all the ultimate questions together.

This leaves us to the present. The philosophy of the Western world is irrationalism and pretending.  Vincent Cheung does a great job showing this with a current teacher of logic and argumentation. Let us see how the current worldview thinks about logic and how to argue.

“We will use David Zarefsky as an example. Among his numerous credentials and achievements, Zarefsky is Professor of Argumentation and Debate and Professor of Communication Studies at Northwestern University. Therefore, as with Sinnott-Armstrong, let no one say that I have deliberately chosen an inferior specimen as an example of non-Christian foolishness.

In his syllabus for a course on argumentation,[10] he refers to deduction and induction, and he expresses his view on logical validity in these terms, so it would be helpful to define them and review their differences.

Deduction is the process of reasoning by which the conclusion is inferred from the premises by logical necessity. On the other hand, induction is the process of reasoning by which the conclusion is not inferred from the premises by logical necessity. In deduction, the conclusion includes only information that is already contained in and necessarily implied by the premises. But in induction, the conclusion includes new information that is not already contained in and necessarily implied by the premises.[11]

An inductive argument yields a conclusion that is supposedly but not necessarily implied by the premises. For this reason, induction is always a formal fallacy; that is, the conclusion is never certain, and never rationally established. In fact, since the conclusion is not necessarily implied by the premises, there is no way to logically show that there is any necessary relationship between the conclusion and the premises.

With the above in mind, Zarefsky writes, “Formal reasoning is not seen as the prototype of argumentation in recent scholarship.”[12] By “formal reasoning,” he is referring to deduction, when “one actually reason[s] in syllogistic form.”[13] In his view, “Most argumentation is not represented by a form in which the conclusion contains no new information.”[14] But he does not conclude, as I would, “Therefore, most argumentation is fallacious.” Instead, he says that argumentation “involves enabling an audience to move from what is already known and believed to some new position,” and “This movement involves a leap of faith that the arguer seeks to justify.”[15]

He goes on to say, “Judgment is needed because absolute proof is not possible, yet decisions must be made.”[16] Subjectivity is introduced into the process because of pragmatic concerns, that is, because “decisions must be made.” He continues, “Judgment is sought by giving sufficient reason that a critical listener would feel justified in accepting the claim.”[17] Instead of objectively and logically demonstrated, the claim is “accepted” if the listener “feel” that it is justified. Thus for Zarefsky, “Adherence of the critical listener becomes the substitute for absolute proof.”

In other words, non-Christian philosophers realize that deduction is unrealistic and impossible for them, and so they have chosen to abandon deduction or deductive arguments, and instead they have decided to depend on subjective judgments based on induction or inductive arguments.

And this means that their arguments are logically invalid. Zarefsky admits, “Applying the concept of validity beyond formal logic is tricky.”[18] Why? “Because the claim does not follow from the evidence with certainty, we cannot say that if the evidence is true, the claim must be true.”[19] We may ask, “If it does not follow with certainty, then does it follow at all?” In any case, what does he do? Does he write, “Therefore, we must concede that our arguments are invalid, and we must be honest and admit that our conclusions are mere subjective, non-rational, or even irrational opinions and speculations”?

No way! Instead of admitting that all their everyday arguments are invalid he says, in effect, “Let us redefine validity! Let us agree that even our leaps of faith are logically valid!”[20] You might say, “But we still must have a ‘check on the process of reasoning,’[21] don’t we?” “Of course,” Zarefsky replies, “This function is achieved by focusing on experience rather than form.”[22] That is, rather than thinking of validity as a matter of necessary inference, he proposes that “A general tendency develops over time for certain reasoning patterns to produce good or bad results.”[23] Like Sinnott-Armstrong, he makes reasoning a pragmatic endeavor instead of a logical or rational one. It is also suggestive that his course is entitled, “Argumentation: The Study of Effective Reasoning,” whereas if I were to teach a course on argumentation, I would instead entitle it, “Argumentation: The Study of Necessary Inference.”

Non-Christians have abandoned rationality, because they cannot live up to the demands of logic or reason. Still, they want to go through the motions of reasoning, and they want to consider themselves rational. So they have redefined rationality as a matter of agreement rather than logical necessity. They cannot get from “here” to “there,” but they still want to get “there,” so they decide to take a leap of faith. If this sounds irrational and invalid, then they will just agree to define it as rational and valid.

Their strategy is that, “If you cannot get from here to there, then cheat. And if everybody cheats, then we will all look fine to one another. Although our conclusions are reached by leaps of faith, we would still like to think of ourselves as rational, so let us just agree that we are rational no matter what.” It is “rationality” by agreement and by pure fantasy, and not by logical necessity or necessary inference.

You exclaim, “What?! Are they stupid?” Yes, they are stupid, and these are the same morons who attack your faith and call you irrational. They are desperate and dishonest. They find it impossible to remain rational apart from reliance on God’s revelation, but they refuse to admit it. The pragmatic approach stems from the realization that they cannot arrive at the conclusions that they wish to prove by deduction, because given their non-Christian epistemologies, it is impossible for them to begin with self-authenticating premises from which they can deduce true conclusions by logical necessity. And even though there are still some non-Christians who try to live up to the standard of deduction, they cannot do it on the basis of their non-Christian epistemologies and first principles. Therefore, whether they try or not, we win.”[5]

Thus, the Western World has given up on trying to be deductive altogether. They will just pretend their anti-logical and irrational system-of-thinking is true, for the sake of “ethics.” And this leads us to the last part of this section.

As said before, ethics are an “ought,” they are not a descriptive premise of reality from the senses. We already showed the multiple category errors in sensation to premises, but ethics would add another category error to this.  Ethics in this way, is like math or logic, in that it is easier to show the incorporeal nature of them. They are not observed but are invisible concepts we apply to things we observe or think or dream about. I never observed an ethic. God has commanded me what to do and not do with the creation He made. Ethics are commandments given by God in revelation. In fact some commands of God are part of our innate knowledge (Romans 2:15). They are not observed but already divinely revealed into the soul by God’s power (ontology of ethics.)

Also ethics are the conclusion of ultimate questions. That is, ethics only comes into play, if there is a knowledge, reality, and man. The premises of your worldview must make knowledge, reality and man possible or there is no use for even mentioning ethics.

In a worldview of empiricism, it is a logical blunder to have descriptive premises about reality to conclude with a more information of an “ought.”

Thus, by embracing irrationalism and pretending induction produces truth for the sake of ethics, the current Western world is only left with dogmatic political ethical zealots. They are dogmatic because they want to use government to apply their ethics to all. This is what dogmatic means. It is not a private opinion, but a doctrine you believe ought to be applied to all. Everyone it a dogmatic, the issue is what doctrines you hold to. There is no such thing as a non-dogmaticist, because to deny this they would have to affirm a dogmatic position that there is no dogmaticism or optional dogmaticism.

Sadly many Christians have engaged this sinful behavior. Two things lead to this. One is as we discussed is empiricism. They watch countless commercials for medicine and often go to the doctor. This re-establishes a habitual re-working of the mind to depend on what you sense and observe and science, rather than God for help, power and definitions. Thus, they do the same with government. The other issue is rejecting the supernatural power of God’s program. In Acts 4 the church looked to God for supernatural power to combat the Government, not their own power. This is not to say we don’t vote or educate, but when prisons are shaken, and political advisors are stricken blind, there is an obvious recognition of God’s power to both the church and the wicked about God’s involvement. If Christian marches lead to God using power to cause buildings to fall on our enemies, like with Jericho, then this would be more in line with how the bible commands us to face political opposition.

Politics is essentially ethics. Yet, empiricism gives no ethics. And so, we pretend. “Man, “ought” to have some type of political structure to make life better.  This is all the thinking the Western World has left.

They have no worldview. They embrace being irrational. They feel strong about ethics. And so they pretend to have ethics. Their church is now the government, and they will march like bald neutered zealots for a cause.

They cannot give you a rational defense for reality, for where or what is knowledge or man, Yet they are dogmatic zealots for ethics that don’t even work in practical life. They are skeptical of reality, knowledge, logic and man, but they are “certain” about ethics. They are zealot morons.

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Summary: The broad foundation is “God.” God is the foundation of logic. Without Him, there is no point in doing logic. And God’s foundation as taught in Scripture, is that of absolute and directly sovereign over all reality, over all knowledge, over all logic and all ethics. This foundation takes away all the problems that non-Christians have with their fruitless attempt to understand the world.

[1] Peter Kreeft. Socratic Logic. 2014 pg. 212.

[2] Gordon Clark, God and Logic.  Copyright © The Trinity Foundation, www.trinityfoundation.org. Post Office 68, Unicoi, Tennessee 37692 Phone: 423.743.0199 Fax: 423.743.2005

Emphasis added by author.

[3]  Smith, Robin, “Aristotle’s Logic”, The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2022 Edition), Edward N. Zalta & Uri Nodelman (eds.), Winter 2022 URL = <https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2022/entries/aristotle-logic/&gt;.

[4] We refer to knowledge here, the way society uses of it and not in the usually way we normally use it here as “truth.” Knowledge as used by society would be defined by the bible as human speculation.

[5] Vincent Cheung. Professional Morons. From the ebook, “Captive to Reason.” Chapter 27. 2009.
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