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Paul Confronts the Genetic Code: The Preconditions of Intelligibility

I’m drawing these specific presuppositional arguments from Vincent Cheung’s “Presuppositional Confrontations,” “Captive to Reason,” “Ultimate Questions,” and especially “Paul and the Philosophers.” Full credit to him—he’s the one who helped me hone these tools. The opening pages of “Paul and the Philosophers” are gold: a clear, devastating summary of how Paul did apologetics. Go read them

Acts 17 records that while Paul waited in Athens, “his spirit was provoked within him when he saw that the city was given over to idols” (v. 16). The apostle didn’t stroll through the marketplace nodding at the philosophers’ cleverness or hunting for common ground in their latest metaphysical fashion. He confronted them with the revelation of the true God who “made the world and everything in it” and who “gives to all life, breath, and all things” (vv. 24-25). In “Paul and the Philosophers”, Vincent Cheung expounds this encounter as the biblical model for apologetics: “Challenge, Confrontation, and Conquest.”

The philosophers of Athens—Epicureans and Stoics—operated from presuppositions that could not sustain the most basic conditions of thought and experience. The same pattern repeats in every age, including ours. Some things never change—except when materialists try to make them change without a Cause.

Consider the video “Origin of the Genetic Code: What We Do and Do Not Know,” produced by the “Stated Casually” channel with Stephen Woodford. The presenters note that the genetic code functions as a genuine symbolic system (we’ll grant they are codes and a symbolic system for the sake of argument. This means we’re pretending here, because that’s what “for the sake of argument” means). That is, a language with codons as symbols, amino acids as referents, syntax, redundancy, and error-correcting mechanisms. They invoke signaling theory, co-evolution, RNA-world hypotheses, and probabilistic arguments to claim this code arose through mindless natural processes. They admit “vast unknowns” yet insist evolution suffices. But this is skepticism—and skepticism denies the law of contradiction. We’ll move on anyway.

In doing so they stand exactly where the Athenian philosophers stood: using the language of intelligibility while denying the only foundation that makes such language possible. One almost admires the gall—until one realizes they’re trying to get blood from a philosophical stone… or rather, intelligible code from a universe that’s philosophically non-intelligible code.  LOL. Such a position is to be mocked and dismissed.

Non-Christian presuppositions are in rebellion against God and therefore distort and suppress the truth (Romans 1:18-20). The video’s materialist narrative cannot account for the preconditions of intelligibility it constantly employs. Materialism and empiricism are inherently circular: they use every point of intelligibility to construct their arguments, then attempt to “prove” those same points from within a system that cannot justify them. That’s wall-punching hilarious. Their premises always smuggle extra unproven information into the conclusion to make the intelligibility conditions appear to emerge from matter alone. They have no justification for using them. Let us press the matter point by point—because nothing says “I love philosophy” like watching someone saw off the branch they’re sitting on while claiming the branch grew itself.

When intelligibility is defined by materialism, atheism, observation, or empiricism alone, the result is not neutral inquiry but a closed loop that devours its own justification. The secular thinker must presuppose the very rational order, categories, the 3 laws of logic, and knowledge he denies in order to deny it. This is not a minor flaw—it is epistemic suicide. It’s like trying to debug the C++ while denying the laws of C++. Bold move.

Cause. Every effect requires a sufficient cause. If the genetic code is an ordered, functional system of information, then it is an effect. The video traces its “origin” through gene duplication, peptide-RNA interactions, and selection pressures, yet this merely pushes the problem backward. What is the real cause? As Vincent Cheung points out in Paul and the Philosophers, the Epicureans appealed to chance collisions of atoms; the Stoics appealed to an impersonal logos. Neither could explain why causation exists or why causes are orderly rather than chaotic. Only the biblical worldview answers: the self-existent Creator who upholds all things by the word of His power (Hebrews 1:3).

The materialist uses cause at every step of his evolutionary narrative, then tries to prove that cause itself arises from blind matter. This is circular. He must already assume causal regularity (the very thing in question) to interpret his observations, then adds unproven information—that matter alone can produce ordered causation—into his conclusion. He has no justification on materialist premises for doing so. It’s like trying to lift yourself by your own bootstraps, except the bootstraps are made of unproven assumptions, the boots are on fire, and the fire was started by a random chemical reaction that somehow “knew” it needed to be dramatic.

Identity. Since the law of Identity relates to categories, we’re dealing with categories. A thing must be itself and not something else. The genetic code must maintain stable identities: adenine pairs with thymine, specific codons specify specific amino acids, the standard code persists across vast domains of life. The video discusses minor variations yet treats the code as a stable identity that “evolved once.” On materialist premises, why should any pattern remain identical across replications or generations? Without justification for Identity, the materialist cannot intelligently say that identity “x” stayed identity “x” while identity “y” became identity “q.” Why shouldn’t flux and contradiction reign in a world where chaos is the foundation? Only the immutable God—“I am the Lord, I do not change” (Malachi 3:6)—grounds identity. The Bible teaches that grace is grace and works are works, and grace is not works and works is not grace.

The materialist uses identity throughout his account, then attempts to prove that stable identities emerge from matter in motion. This is circular. He presupposes the very stability he claims to explain, smuggling extra information into his conclusion that matter can sustain sameness over time. He has no justification for this move within his own system.

“Some may argue that categories are learned from repetition. They think that a person hears the word ‘cause’ whenever one event follows another, so eventually the mind learns the concept of cause from repeated patterns. This fails. To recognize a pattern already requires categories like identity through time and rules for connecting one case with another. Without those categories, the person would have nothing to tell him that the same kind of event has happened again, rather than just a meaningless string of flashes. Even the claim that a concept is ‘learned’ from many examples uses the very concept during the learning process.

This means that meaning itself requires fixed rational structure that is prior to and independent of any particular observation. Prior does not mean earlier in time… It means logically prior. If reason is to be reason, it must stand on something that does not depend on shifting feelings or human customs. This foundation must be universal… necessary… and rational in itself… If such a foundation exists, then human thought has an anchor… Without it, thought reduces to meaningless sounds with no right to claim belief.” 

 — Vincent Cheung, Paul and the Philosophers, p. 4

Probability and the numerator-denominator problem. The presenters repeatedly appeal to probability: the “likelihood” of functional proteins, the “probability” of certain codon assignments, the unlikelihood of design. Yet as Vincent Cheung reminds us, probability consists of a numerator (specific observations) and a denominator (the complete set of all relevant possibilities—the universal framework). Empiricism and induction can never know the denominator unless they are all-knowing. But if you’re all-knowing, you don’t need science or experiments—you already have knowledge. The act of science or experimentation is an admission you don’t have knowledge. Science is not knowledge. Science, by its own materialist, empiricist, observational method, makes knowledge impossible. It lies beyond any finite set of observations.

To claim the genetic code’s origin is “probable” under naturalism, one must already possess knowledge of the total range of possibilities—an omniscience the materialist does not have. The appeal to probability is therefore circular: the unbeliever uses the numerator while smuggling in an unjustified denominator. He adds extra unproven information into his conclusion—that a stable universal order exists from which probabilities can be calculated—while denying the only source of that order. He has no justification for the denominator on empiricist terms.

“Before you have knowledge, you cannot possibly know the denominator, the complete set of relevant possibilities. But without the denominator, you cannot calculate a probability at all. To establish the denominator, you would need knowledge larger than the present context, in fact, knowledge of the entire range of possible outcomes. At that point you would already have the very knowledge probability is supposed to deliver, and you would have no need for the experiment or the appeal to probability in the first place.

In practice, when people appeal to probability in this way, they are never doing real probability. What they describe is a sense of confidence, an intuition shaped by repetition or prejudice, or a pattern their minds have supposedly recognized. Then they dress this feeling in the language of numbers. But a feeling of confidence is not knowledge, and pattern recognition is not proof, especially when the pattern was derived from a defective framework. Probability without a true denominator is psychology disguised as epistemology.

 Probability cannot serve as a path to truth. If you lack knowledge, you cannot establish the denominator, so probability cannot be applied. If you somehow knew the denominator, you would already possess knowledge far greater than the experiment offers, which makes the experiment irrelevant. In either case, probability does not solve the problem of knowledge. It assumes what it must prove.” 
 — Vincent Cheung, Paul and the Philosophers, p. 6

Difference and distinction. Intelligible thought requires real distinctions. Codons must differ from one another; start codons must differ from stop codons; the genetic code must differ from other biological signaling systems, or there is no intelligibility. Without grounded distinctions, language itself becomes impossible. The Athenian philosophers could not consistently maintain distinctions because their ultimate principles blurred all categories into flux or unity. The biblical doctrine of creation establishes real differences: God made the beasts “according to their kinds” (Genesis 1:25).

The materialist uses distinctions at every turn in his analysis, then tries to prove that real differences arise from undifferentiated matter. And yet again, this is circular. He presupposes the distinctions he claims to explain, adding unproven information into his conclusion that matter can generate and maintain genuine difference. He has no justification within materialism for doing so. Matter apparently has a very strong opinion about what counts as “different”—until it doesn’t. (LOL.)

Time and history. The video narrates a story of the code “emerging” over deep time through gradual processes. But time itself requires grounding. Why does time flow in one direction? Why is there a past, present, and future rather than eternal stasis or chaos? The philosophers of Athens offered cyclical or eternal views of time that could never ground genuine history. Scripture reveals time as the created arena where God consistently makes reality act in regular ways for His purpose.

The materialist uses time and temporal sequence throughout his narrative, then attempts to prove that time and history themselves emerge from matter. This is circular. He presupposes the temporal order he claims to explain, smuggling extra information into his conclusion that matter can produce directed, meaningful history. He has no justification on his own premises.

Motion—the ball in flight. Even the simplest act of perception exposes the problem.

“When the mind looks at a scene, it does more than take a mental picture. It interprets the scene using concepts such as identity, difference, number, relation, time, and cause. These concepts are not pulled from the scene itself. When a child looks at two apples, he uses the concept of number to know that they are two. When he follows a ball flying through the air, he uses time and continuity to track its motion. When he says that the ball broke the window, he uses the concept of cause. If he had to first create number, time, or cause from raw sensory data before using them, he could never begin to use them at all. Any attempt to ‘get’ them from experience would already need them to be in use. Interpretation comes with built-in categories that experience does not provide. This concerns the necessity of innate structure. Certain categories must exist for observation to have any meaning at all.” 

 — Vincent Cheung, *Paul and the Philosophers*

As Cheung shows, this simple act presupposes the intelligibility conditions that empiricism claims to derive from sensation. The materialist uses motion and continuity at every step of his evolutionary story, then tries to prove that ordered motion arises from matter alone. This is circular. He presupposes the very motion and regularity he claims to explain, adding unproven information into his conclusion that blind matter can sustain directed, continuous change. He has no justification within his system for this assumption.

Language and meaning. The video correctly identifies the genetic code as language. But language presupposes a mind—a speaker who intends meaning. Without an intelligent source, symbols collapse into mere physical motion of particles. Non-Christian worldviews cannot account for meaning. The materialist uses meaningful language and symbolic analysis throughout his presentation, then attempts to prove that meaningful language and symbols arise from matter without mind. This is circular. He presupposes the meaning and intentionality he claims to explain, smuggling extra unproven information into his conclusion that chemistry alone can produce genuine communication. He has no justification on materialist terms for treating meaningless matter as meaningful.

Science isn’t knowledge, because it’s anti-logic with a PhD. Science is without logic, and so it is just expensive storytelling in a lab coat.

These are not peripheral issues. They are the fatal flaws that render the entire video incoherent on its own terms. The presenters employ cause, identity, probability, difference, time, motion, language, and meaning at every turn; precisely the preconditions of intelligibility that only Christian revelation can justify. They use these tools to “prove” a naturalistic origin for the genetic code, yet they have no justification for the tools themselves. Their method is circular by necessity, because their first principle—random matter in motion without God—cannot produce or sustain rationality, intelligibility, order, or information. They borrow the Christian doctrines of providence, uniformity, and meaning while denying the Provider, always adding extra unproven information into their conclusions to make the intelligibility conditions appear to emerge from matter alone.

If the genetic code is indeed code, then it testifies against them. The video’s story is a modern retelling of the Athenian idols: sophisticated in appearance, but built on sand. Paul did not flatter the philosophers or accommodate their categories. He declared the Creator, exposed their ignorance of the “unknown god,” and called them to repent because God “has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained” (Acts 17:31).

To the makers of the video and all who share their presuppositions: your system cannot account for the intelligibility you employ in every sentence. You speak of cause, identity, probability, difference, time, motion, language, and meaning while standing on foundations your worldview has sawed off. You use these points to construct your argument, then circularly attempt to prove them from within materialism and empiricism—always smuggling extra unproven information into your conclusions—yet you have no justification for doing so. Repent. The same revelation that explains the intelligibility for all codes explains your need for a Savior.

Chance denies order yet relies on order to articulate the theory. Necessity cancels rational judgment yet uses rational judgment to defend it. Both erase the preconditions of meaningful time, logic, categories, intelligibility, morals, and knowledge.

God is the only response that does justice to the supposed genetic code and all other codes. All other explanations are variations on the idols of Athens—old and new. The truth remains: the God who made the genetic code has spoken, and His Word is the precondition of every word we speak, every code we decode, and every argument we advance. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

Obedience Proves you Understand the Scripture

All who follow his precepts have good understanding,”
(Psalm 111:10 NIV).

If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you. My Father is glorified by this: that you bear much fruit, and prove to be my disciples,
(John 15:7-8 LEB).

 Ethics are the conclusion of one’s worldview. Without knowledge, there is no knowledge of ethics. Without a reality, then there is no reality for ethics to exist in. Without man, there is no man to command. Thus, on the major premises of epistemology and metaphysics, ethics conclude from this.

We read something interesting Psalm 111:10b. We are told that by obeying God’s precepts (i.e. Ethics) it “proves” that a person has good understanding or intelligence. Since obeying God is Christian ethics, it means obeying God concludes from “understanding” Christian epistemology and metaphysics. This is why the greatest test for exposing if a so-called Christian pastor, or historically famous theology is truly intelligent and understanding can be seen in their obedience of God. In obedience they prove they have understanding of Christian epistemology and metaphysics. However, like the religious hypocrites in Jesus’ day, some Christian ethics can be outwardly mimicked, at least to a degree. However, some ethics cannot be mimicked by hypocrites. For example, one such ethics is mentioned by Jesus in John 15. Jesus’ presupposes that bearing fruit for the Father is a command or precept. It is a Christian ethic. Jesus says by doing this ethic you “prove you are His disciples.” The ethic mentioned here is having faith to ask God for anything and then God give you this anything.

Even Jesus said it was more difficult to speak healing to the sick than speaking forgiveness of sins, because if you say, “get up and walk,” there is an immediate point of verification. False Christian converts do not have faith, thus, they cannot ask for God for anything and then get it. They cannot do the miracles that Jesus did, because they do not have faith or understanding.

The more difficult ethics that cannot be mimicked by false converts (such as healing, miracles and answered prayers), are ethics that give greater proof of greater understanding of God’s truth and greater Christian intelligence. It means you need to understand more of God’s sovereignty and Christian epistemology, and to believe them, in order to do such ethics. These ethics prove, you truly believe what the bible claims about God.

Thus, the real proof for a persons claim to ministry is not a degree, which is mere human approval, but doing the more difficult ethics. These prove such a Christian has great understanding of Christian epistemology and metaphysics. It does not mean they are perfect in their understanding, but as the Scripture says, it does prove they understand God. If your pastors and favorites theologians do not have such ethics in their life, they do not give Scriptural proof they understand God’s sovereignty, or biblical epistemology as well as they claim.

Do not let such disobedient weaklings be your instructors, in particular, if they directly teach against such ethics, or merely hold them back. 

Good Tree – Good Fruit, Good Fruit – Good Tree

[This is a cannibalized section from the eschatology section from my systematic theology book, about the importance of the baptism of the spirit.]

“You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit,”
(Matt. 7-16-18 LSB).

“But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him either in this age or in the coming one!
33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit is good, or make the tree bad and its fruit is bad, for the tree is known by its fruit.
34 Offspring of vipers! How are you able to say good things when you[q] are evil,”
(Matt 12:32-34 LEB).

“For there is no good tree that produces bad fruit, nor on the other hand a bad tree that produces good fruit, 44 for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thorn plants, nor are grapes harvested from thorn bushes. 45 The good person out of the good treasury of his heart brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks,” (Luke 6:43-45 LEB).

Jesus puts a focus on bad words and bad doctrine in how He defines bad fruit, because the context is the Jewish leaders committing the blaspheme of the Holy Spirit with a false doctrine that affirmed the works of the Spirit come from Satan. In Matthew 7 this is said in context of obeying God’s law and Jesus showing the true standard God commands, and thus, this is a universal teaching on all obedience and disobedience to God’s commandments. So, although bad fruit is a universal category for all disobedience, Jesus does put a stronger focus on disobedience with affirming false doctrine. Jesus says, “how can you SAY good things, when you are evil.” This statement contradicts Jesus’ truth claims about reality; thus, they cannot say good things, because they are evil, and they are evil and so they say evil things.

In Matthew 7:17-18 Jesus makes 4 truth claims. We will put them from A to D. Since Jesus intends for us to add ourselves or someone else to this, and thus we have 3 terms and a deductive application. We will use hypothetical syllogisms for simplicity with modus tollens, rather than categorical syllogisms and contrapositions, which can be a little more difficult (for understanding why and how) for those who have not studied logic. Example, the contraposition for, “all [good trees] are [good fruit bearers],” in the defined context of Jesus’ truth claims[1], would be “all [bad fruit bearers] are [bad trees].” In natural deduction this rule is transposition or contraposition.[2]

However, beyond this the scripture plainly says in 1 John 3:7, “he one who does what is right is righteous.” Thus, if good fruit, then good tree.

A, If good tree, then good fruit.
B, If bad tree, then bad fruit.
C, If good tree, then no bad fruit.
D, If bad tree, then no good fruit.

Jesus is repeating Himself in premise C and D, because their logical conclusions in Modus Tollens are the same for A and B.

In essence, with premise A and B, with the uses of Modus ponens and Modus tollens, we have 4 deductive conclusion or outputs.

Jesus defines the context in a way that these are opposites, and that there is no other options. When it comes to person and the law of God, there is obedience or disobedience; there is no other option. When it comes to a person and being born again in spiritual life or under spiritual death, there is no other options. Therefore, the negation will be said as “bad fruit or tree,” or “good fruit or tree,” since in context this is what the negation is.

If we only had premise “A” and we did a Modus ponens and tollens (or in categorical contraposition), then we can say “because bad fruit, thus bad tree,” but not, “because good fruit thus, good trees.” However, with premise B, and then with Jesus’ further restating this doctrine in premise C and D, we have the latter conclusion. Also, C and D close off any overlap for the categories of obedience (good fruit) and disobedience (bad fruit) for humans.

Syllogism A.

A.1.(P) If good tree, (Q) then good fruit.
A.2. (P). Good tree
A.3. Thus, (Q) good fruit

Then the Modus Tollens, Ab.

Ab.1. (P) If good tree, (Q) then good fruit.
Ab.2. ~(Q) bad fruit.
Ab.3. Thus, ~(P) bad tree.

Syllogism B.

B.1. (P) If bad tree, (P) then bad fruit.
B.2. (P). Bad Tree.
B.3. Thus, (Q) bad fruit.

Then the Modus Tollens, Bb.

Bb.1. (P) If bad tree, (P) then bad fruit.
Bb.2. ~(Q) Good fruit.
Bb.3.  Thus ~(P) Good tree.

When Jesus says, “you will know them by their fruit,” it is being used as a proof. Jesus is saying, “x” proves that there is “y.” By using the Modus tollens we see bad fruit does prove bad tree, and good fruit proves a good tree. This can sometimes be seen with past, present and future tense verbs. As a category statement, “A good tree DOES or WILL produce good fruit.” Using the logic of double negative in reverse order, “if you produce bad fruit, then you have been or are a bad tree.”

The positive statements are positive statements about “metaphysics.” They are what God has created and sovereignly caused. The modus tollens, are being used as a way for us to discover and “prove” what metaphysics God as put us into, through our obedience or disobedience.

These statements of Jesus are universal; they are all encompassing statements about all good works in obedience and all bad works in disobedience. Jesus takes a few words from the Jewish leaders and says, “this specific bad fruit of false doctrine you said, is proof you are a bad tree.” Thus, applying this knowledge in deduction, any biblical premise that narrowly speaks of one type of bad or good fruit, even if only mentioned in one premise, applies to all four possible combinations shown. Whether it is John in “1st John,” talking about the good or bad fruit of loving God or loving your brother, it applies to all 4 combinations. “The one who hates his brother is in the darkness,” (1 John 2:11 LEB).

The same with Jesus saying,

“7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you. 8 My Father is glorified by this: that you bear much fruit, and prove to be my disciples… 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and your fruit should remain, in order that whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. 17 These things I command you.”[3]

Vincent Cheung has a great essay on this called, “Predestination and Miracles.”

God has chosen us, and predestined us. Predestined for what? There was more to what Jesus said: “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit — fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.” God predestined us to bear fruit. What is this fruit? Christian teaching often assumes that fruit refers to spiritual and ethical effects such as improvements in character, works of charity, and also works of ministry, such as saving sinners and building churches. This is not entirely wrong, but the biblical idea of fruit includes much more, and Jesus clearly had other things in mind when he made the statement.

Even in the same verse, we can see that Jesus had in mind not only works of preaching and charity, because he said his followers would produce fruit and that “the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.” Gospel life and ministry is characterized by answers to prayers. What kinds of prayers? Wait, this is weaker than the way Jesus said it. The doctrine of prayer in historic unbelief is that “God will answer your prayers if it is his will (regardless of what he promised). Or, you can say that he always answers your prayers — sometimes he says yes, sometimes no, sometimes maybe, sometimes later. Or, when you ask for egg, he will give you a scorpion, so that when you ask for spiritual growth, he will give you cancer to teach you a lesson.” Among us, we have never accepted this view of prayer. We recognize it as satanic deception. But Jesus did not even say, “God will answer your prayers” or “God will always answer your prayers.” He said, “God will give you whatever you ask.” This is how God wants us to think about our relationship with him. This is how he wants us to think about discipleship. This is how he wants us to think about faith and prayer. God will give me whatever I ask when I approach him in the name of Jesus. No hiding behind a thousand qualifications. No excuses for me or for him.

God will give me whatever I ask. I will have whatever I ask. What I ask, I get. And I am predestined for this. So I am chosen to get whatever I ask. I am predestined to get whatever I ask. It is my foreordained destiny to receive whatever I ask God in the name of Jesus. If you have never heard this, then you have never heard the Bible’s doctrine of predestination, you have never heard the Bible’s doctrine of prayer, you have never heard the Bible’s doctrine of the name of Jesus, and you have never heard the Bible’s doctrine of discipleship. Just several verses earlier, Jesus said, “If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you. This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples” (15:7-8). Getting whatever we ask from God is intertwined throughout his discourse with the notions of bearing fruit, being his disciples, and loving one another. Thus getting whatever we ask from God is as pervasive as the gospel itself. It cannot be taken out and thrown away without tearing apart the entire gospel, and thus also our salvation. Here bearing fruit is almost the same thing as getting whatever we ask from God, and by getting what we ask from God, we show ourselves to be true disciples of Christ.[4]

The metaphysics that God sovereignly causes, is that a disciple (good tree), produces the (good fruit) of asking and receiving what they ask for.

Jesus defines good fruit as obeying His commandments. His command here, is to disciples (not merely apostles) to pray and get what you pray for. You need to think about that. It is a command from your God; it is not a mere suggestion or self-help tip. Jesus has already defined good and bad people by obedience and disobedience with 4 possible combinations, and thus, the same applies here. Bad fruit is praying and not receiving what you pray for. Thus, if you pray and do not receive because you lack faith, you are producing bad fruit. A continued life of this bad fruit is proof you are not His good disciple. A continued life of this bad fruit is proof Jesus did not predestine or appoint you to bear good fruit. It proves you were chosen by God to be a reprobate.

The apostles said, “then God has granted them repentance to life.” God’s sovereign work caused and predestined these with spiritual life (born from above) and reconciled them to Him, by repentance (faith). It is a statement of metaphysics; they are saved; they live in Spiritual life now; they live reconciled to God. When applied for good or bad fruit, it is the same as has been demonstrated, it is a test of proof.

The same is for baptism of the Spirit. If baptism of the Spirit (good fruit), then proof of the metaphysics that you are did repent and are in the category of spiritual “life” and “saved,” (good tree).  Bad fruit is not being baptized in the Spirit. A continued rebellion and disobedience in not being baptized in the Spirit is proof of reprobation, especially in context of doctrine. If you continue in affirming the false doctrines that God does not command you to love your brother, and that Jesus did not teach that truth does set you free, and Jesus did not teach that you get what you ask for in faith, and that God does not command you to be baptism in the Spirit, then you give strong proof you are a reprobate. If continued affirmation of false doctrine on this doctrine is not repented of, then stronger proof of God’s predestination of your reprobation. The same for hating your brother, (etc.). Hebrews 12 affirms that Christians have besetting sin. “let us lay aside the sins that easily entangle us.” It does happen. But the same chapter says to look to Jesus who is the author and “perfecter” of our faith. We are told to get free. We are told Jesus is able to heal dislocated shoulders. The great danger is not repenting and being arrogant. To be arrogant and unrepentance in continued false doctrine is a great, if not the greatest danger of proof for reprobation. Jesus was very compassionate with those who were at least trying to repent and follow, “lord help my unbelief.” Paul, after correcting the Corinthians for many sinful actions, kept encouraging them to repent and get better. At the end of the letter, he says to double check and make sure your election is sure. If no repentance of your bad fruit, then you give proof of reprobation.  For the false teachers that Paul dealt with, he didn’t record that even prayed for God to save them, but says regarding the coppersmith that God would “repay him” for the harm of the false doctrine and unbelief he was spreading.  Likewise Paul says in Philippians 4 the women and Clement’s names are in the “book of life (v.3),” because of their labor in the gospel. That is, Paul says their election of being saints is certain, because of their good fruit, and not because Paul received a divine revelation about them. We can do the same. Jude, regarding the false teachers, says they are reprobates destined for hell with the demons. However, regarding the Corinthians who were not affirming false doctrines as false teachers, but sinning in sins of passion, Paul corrected them and told them that “temples of God” do not behave that way.

We will now examine these arguments by putting them into syllogism A and B from above, since these two alone will output all the combinations we need.

Love and hating your brother.

Syllogism A.

A.1.(P) If born from above, (Q) then love for your brother.
A.2. (P). Born from above.
A.3. Thus, (Q) Love for your brother.

Then the Modus Tollens, Ab.

Ab.1. (P) If born from above, (Q) then love for your brother.
Ab.2. ~(Q) hates your brother.
Ab.3. Thus, ~(P) proof of being born from below.

Syllogism B.

B.1. (P) If born from below, (P) then hates your brother.
B.2. (P). Born from below.
B.3. Thus, (Q) hates your brother.

Then the Modus Tollens, Bb.

Bb.1. (P) If born from below, (P) then hates your brother.
Bb.2. ~(Q) loves your brother.
Bb.3.  Thus ~(P) proof of being born from above.

Ask and get what You pray for.

Syllogism A.

A.1.(P) If good disciple, (Q) then ask and get what you ask for.
A.2. (P). Good disciple.
A.3. Thus, (Q) ask and get what you ask for.

Then the Modus Tollens, Ab.

Ab.1. (P) If good disciple, (Q) then ask and get what you ask for.
Ab.2. ~(Q) ask and not get what you ask for.
Ab.3. Thus, ~(P) proof of bad disciple.

Syllogism B.

B.1. (P) If bad disciple, (P) then ask and not get what you ask for.
B.2. (P). Bad disciple.
B.3. Thus, (Q) ask and not get what you ask for.

Then the Modus Tollens, Bb.

Bb.1. (P) If bad disciple, (P) then ask and not get what you ask for.
Bb.2. ~(Q) ask and get what you ask for.
Bb.3.  Thus ~(P) proof of good disciple.

Baptism of the Spirit.

Peter and the apostles defined the “good tree” as repentance to be “saved,” and repentance of “life.” Thus the metaphysical category is life and saved. We will call this saved and unsaved.

Syllogism A.

A.1.(P) If saved, (Q) then baptism of Spirit.
A.2. (P) saved.
A.3. Thus, (Q) baptism of the Spirit.

Then the Modus Tollens, Ab.

Ab.1. (P) If saved, (Q) then baptism of the Spirit.
Ab.2. ~(Q) no baptism in the Spirit.
Ab.3. Thus, ~(P) no proof of being saved.

Syllogism B.

B.1. (P) If unsaved, (P) then no baptism of the Spirit.
B.2. (P) unsaved.
B.3. Thus, (Q) no baptism of the Spirit.

Then the Modus Tollens, Bb.

Bb.1. (P) If unsaved, (P) then no baptism of the Spirit.
Bb.2. ~(Q) baptism of Spirit.
Bb.3.  Thus ~(P) thus proof for being saved.

______________ENDNOTES_______________

[1] That is, without context, as you might find in a logic textbook, you would need to say, “all [non-good fruit bearers] are [non-good trees].” However, unlike a logic book, that mostly gives the absolute minimum context of something, in Christianity we have a substantial context of knowledge about the world. We know exactly what Jesus means by “non-good trees” for humans commanded to obey His words, they are “bad trees.”

[2] I have seen some morons in modern logic want to deny the “law of excluded middle,” which is what makes this reverse double negative logic work. Aside from all rules showing this to be valid, included truth tables, it is interesting that those denying this are liberal theologians and atheist and empiricists who do not have an epistemology that is able give them truth in the first place. With a necessary epistemology that gives substantial knowledge about the world, with clearly defined categories, then the law of excluded middle is valid, strong and absolute. But beside all this, Jesus and the Bible assumes the law of excluded middle. Do not let those who do not have truth to begin with, be your teachers. Leave them alone to wonder in their own delusions.

[3]  Emphasis by author.

[4] Vincent Cheung. Predestination and Miracles. From the ebook, TRACE. 2018. Pg. 73-74